... build 
without 
and 
?
I don't usually rely on preset builds. In fact I'm very much against it. But as a one time Diana main, I've always been astounded at how these items are so often avoided on her.
These items are essential for Diana if you ask me!
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Zero Shingetsu2 votesThats a dumb fucking build. You are the reason people rage in league. Cause some retard thinks he's theory crafting but really he's just hamstringing himself.
72% win rate over 129 games with Diana building just like this. In platinum IV. If I'm not mistaken, isn't "hamstringing" slang for "weakening oneself"?
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Zero Shingetsu2 votesYou literally aren't even ranked. So I'm assuming you're going to try and tell me this is a smurf account. So what's your main?
Not a smurf, but an alt. My main account is on JP and is written in characters Riot has already warned me about typing on the NA boards.
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Zero Shingetsu2 votesYou're so full of shit it hurts. Link your OP.GG or quit lying.
Sorry, friend. TOS forbids intermingling the affairs of one server to another on the boards. I've gotten in trouble for posting JP-related content on NA before, and I've got nothing to prove to you that requires risking a ban. Believe it or don't, I honestly don't care. All I ask with posts like these is that people stop assuming the NA meta is the only way to play with success.
Braum Mechanics1 votesMy guess would be she gets blown up even faster with this build than what people usually build on her but hey that's just my guess
no talk jus play1 votesThink she's a burst / assassin type.
Your only needed auto item is probably going to be Lich Bane.
Although Nashors seems acceptable too.
Zero Shingetsu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mr Banana911,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZlVsO6eT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-29T15:34:55.249+0000)
Think she's a burst / assassin type.
Your only needed auto item is probably going to be Lich Bane.
Although Nashors seems acceptable too.
Ah, must be a difference in play styles then. I play her as a split pusher with dueling power, and an assassin only when the ADC is around.
PhDs Nuts1 votes
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3 attack speed items is way over the top with her passive. She's better at bursting than trying to do sustained damage.
Zero Shingetsu1 votes
3 attack speed items is way over the top with her passive. She's better at bursting than trying to do sustained damage.
You can never have too much attack speed. The chicken demands it! I like Gunblade now that I look at it, but the rest of that makes her feel like a caster. She loses a lot of versatility in this case, and it's a shame to keep a champion with this kind of mobility from being able to split push.
ProtestantCaesar1 votesYour build is a much more DPS-oriented build than the typical burst build.
I think Arcsecond considers 
to be core on Diana. After you have that, there's really only room for 
and boots.
Zero Shingetsu1 votesYour build is a much more DPS-oriented build than the typical burst build.
I think Arcsecond considers
I can see the merit in Hourglass, her Q would be pretty much off cooldown by the time it's done. Maybe even Rod of Ages, if you need to be a bit sturdier. But Rabadon and Void Staff have never really worked for me on Diana. I find that her burst damage is less effective overall than her sustained passive procs. Better to lifesteal and rip health bars apart than poke and wait for the ADC to break off from their team.
Plus, my playstyle sends her to splitpush and clear waves pretty frequently.
Davaken1 votesSo I saw this thread and decided to look up your op.gg, which confused me because on no website could I find a player called "musounotakamaru". So I googled your name and found another profile called "Zero Shingetsu" and I think your builds in general helps put a lot of context into your suggestions.
First of all, why go cleanse every game instead of flash? The only games I saw where you didn't take cleanse was Taliyah
jungle with 
and 
where you went 3/15. It's wierd.
Also your builds really doesn't make any sense. Why would you ever go 
when you don't even nearly have enough hp to make use of the passive?
I'm all for trying new builds, but these builds you are using aren't "experimental", they are straight out trolling. Even in ranked. What is up with that? And why do you think you can build like this? Even this Diana-onhit build, that would make sense if you didn't put in a random 
item, or that time where you built 
Zero Shingetsu1 votesSo I saw this thread and decided to look up your op.gg, which confused me because on no website could I find a player called "musounotakamaru". So I googled your name and found another profile called "Zero Shingetsu" and I think your builds in general helps put a lot of context into your suggestions.
First of all, why go cleanse every game instead of flash? The only games I saw where you didn't take cleanse was Taliyah
Also your builds really doesn't make any sense. Why would you ever go
I'm all for trying new builds, but these builds you are using aren't "experimental", they are straight out trolling. Even in ranked. What is up with that? And why do you think you can build like this? Even this Diana-onhit build, that would make sense if you didn't put in a random
Yeah, I recently changed my name at the behest of my viewers. Not sure why the forum was so slow in updating that. As far as these accounts in general, this is my NA alt, which I primarily use to keep my English sharp and get a sense for how NA is doing things. Now, to answer questions:
I go Cleanse because I don't like to weaken myself with Flash. I found out early on in playing League that if I had a fallback like Flash, I'd make more hairbrained decisions on when to go in. Since playing without it, I've made much smarter decisions overall. Cleanse is actually pretty common on JP, so I've been used to using it for a long while. In lane it negates cheese Ignite kills under my turret, and often confuses opponents into getting counter-killed themselves. Late game, it's great because I tend to play dive-tanks like Sejuani and Camille, and I often soak up all the enemy's CC as soon as the teamfight starts. One Cleanse and it's all wasted.
No, that was Support Taliyah. I often bring Smite on supports to proc Targon and ensure we don't get objectives stolen from us.
I assume you're referring to my most recent Shaco game, where I did in fact have just enough health to make use of it thanks to my quintessences. Warmog is great on Shaco because he's extremely mobile and hard to keep track of. I can stay in the jungle, running the enemy team in circles, healing rapidly while they chase me. It occupies a ton of their time my team uses to push lanes.
Regarding Diana, the Tear isn't exactly random. My playstyle is fast and furious, making ample use of Q -> R to get in and out of fights repeatedly, so she needs plenty of mana. Usually, the Tear builds into Muramana, which gives her that little bit of bonus damage when split pushing and bursting carries with my attack speed build.
Mortal Reminder, I build when the enemy ADC is lifestealing through all the damage we can dish out or a Voli is pinning us down consistently, but no one else is building anything that deals Grievous Wounds. Someone has to adapt, and it's usually me because as this thread is clearly showing, I'm one of the very few players on NA who's willing to improvise based on a given game's circumstances, rather than sticking to a rigid bog standard build that isn't working in a particular game.
Zero Shingetsu1 votesAlso now that I read over this again, you took an awful lot of effort to find me. You hunted down a name that, at the time, didn't match my forum name, you dug up games I don't even remember playing myself, and you claim to have learned enough about how I play to presume my thinking matches that of a troll.
If you tell me where I grew up or what I ate for breakfast, I may have to consider a restraining order... (But seriously, I'm flattered you took such an interest, I just found it a little excessive over one brief post about Diana items.)
Davaken1 votesOh wow, now your name updated on boards. Interesting.
Tbh, this Diana post was just some random stuff I found, and I recognized you from a shitstorm in some comments yesterday about new champions being banned, I always look at the downvoted comments, just because they are the most interesting, and lead to some pretty overdone arguments. Didn't religion get involved in that one or something?
Then I see this post with your name again, I recognize it from yesterdays shitstorm in the comments, and see this very questionable build. Of course I tried to find you. It only took me like 5 minutes tho, but your "interesting" match history and builds sure were worth it. One of the lesser used websites showing peoples match history, still had your old name on it for some reason.
While it would be interesting to argue about some of the more questionable item choices, there is just too many to go over. I really thought you just used one of those websites for random items.
Also, you totally ate cereal this morning. (random guess)
Zero Shingetsu1 votesAlso, you totally ate cereal this morning. (random guess)
Natto and fish. We're good. :)
0 Hogapu1 votesI have to admit that this build is surprising... could you upload a game where you play this way? Would be interesting. (U play that toplane i guess?)
Zero Shingetsu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Katárina Bot,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZlVsO6eT,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-08-29T19:42:59.577+0000)
I have to admit that this build is surprising... could you upload a game where you play this way? Would be interesting. (U play that toplane i guess?)
Normally either support or mid, actually. Do you mean like a video, or a box score? Video might be tough because I play NA on a laptop that lags like crap when I record, but I could surely try to get you a postgame cap.
0 Hogapu1 votesWould have enjoyed a video, but if you cannot thats ok ^^ Btw why do you play her this way? Im pretty sure it is not better than the traditional AP build for her.... anti metaslabe ? Xd
Zero Shingetsu1 votes[{quoted}](name=Katárina Bot,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZlVsO6eT,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-08-29T19:49:19.171+0000)
Would have enjoyed a video, but if you cannot thats ok ^^ Btw why do you play her this way? Im pretty sure it is not better than the traditional AP build for her.... anti metaslabe ? Xd
I like the utility. The AP offered by these items still makes her a decent assassin if played carefully, but also gives the team another split-pusher and wave clearer if needed. I can also give her on-hit effects like Grievous Wounds if they're needed without "wasting" an item slot. (Sooo many people overlook that when the other team is healing to win teamfights.)
