cinderhulk still rushed despite all the nerfs

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why riot create an item that hyperscale lategame (aoe magic damage that increase with lvl), %dmg reduction, %hp bonus. But make the item so op, that it's the most op item even at lvl 1 ?

i would like to know who is currently in charge of balance at riot ? is it still morello ? because morello despite being bronze had a little clue how to balance the game (actually he had the knowedge of a silver player). but currently, it seems impossible to balance the game like that even for a bronze player. I think riot is subcontracting balance to mc donald and the kitchen assistant try to balance the game at its best but it's kinda hard for him i guess.

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Killstrado3 votes

For one, you can't get it at level one, for two all jungler items are rushed....duurrrrr

Duke Anax2 votes

It's another proof that they have no clue what they are doing.

Pretty much everyone agrees that the problem with Cinderhulk is the HP, but Riot changes the damage.

Half of every balance patch is like that.

Killstrado2 votes

They've NERFED the health twice now, technically 4 times if you were on PBE

Duke Anax2 votes

Sorry %HP.

They could set the HP tp 0 and it would still be the same problem.

Killstrado1 votes

I don't think it would, plus one NERF was to the percent, another to flat, plus the damage got reduced and the cost raised so not to sound like a dick buuuuuut you need to learn to play around it and quit complaining because you have trouble killing tanks(you're suppose to have trouble that's why they are tanks)

Duke Anax1 votes

I main Support. I'm not complaining about trouble killing Tanks, I don't kill Tanks period. If anything I'm, the Tank that is hard to kill.

As a Tank I always had trouble getting enough HP. Cinderhulk solves the HP problem for Tanks, but there is no alternative to it and that is the problem with it. Not the damage on it not the HP on it, but the multiplicative %HP stacking.

As long as that remain on the item andn tehre is no other item with the same effect it will always be core on Tanks, unless they nerf it so hard that no one wants it anymore, not the junglers either.

3tyson2 votes

Cinderhulk is like the tanky rabadons only usualy i dont get to rush rabadons

ProfDrDeath1 votes

Cinderhulk is rushed because it gives them tanky guys a major boon for their clear speed. Simple as that.

See it this way:

  • You purchase your Smite upgrade for 850.
  • You purchase item 3751 , which equals to 300 HP and 7.5 + 1.5/lvl damage to monsters
  • For mere 400 gold, you purchase 75 HP and 16 + 1/lvl to 24 + 1.5/lvl damage to monsters

Effectively, you pay some 200 gold to get a vast increase in your clear speed as a tank.

The PBE Cinderhulk has 15 + 0.6/lvl damage to minions and champions, and 30+1.2/lvl damage to monsters, with the numbers tuned in a way to give you the same/slightly more damage to monsters independant of your level.

  • You purchase your Smite upgrade for 850.
  • You purchase item 3751 , which equals to 300 HP and 7.5 + 1.5/lvl damage to monsters
  • For mere 400 gold, you purchase 75 HP and 22.5 - 0.3/lvl damage to monsters
Titanium701 votes

Its just a item 3089 item 3031 for Tanks and thats good!

Kariu Rena1 votes

"Sejuani is olafed after her recent nerf" - bronze from gameplay n balance

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