Riot ... the randuin changes are a heavy blow to 2 champions

Knight SoIaire ·Aug 22, 2015·2 votes·698 views

ashe and yasuo

both of them rely on criting every auto but now ashe gets to deal 10% damage less on top of a certain mastery while yasuo gets handicapped twice

with some math done i managed to calculate that yasuo will deal only 160% of his ad with his autos and wait for it. ... 130% of his damage when he q's

i think that those champions will need some compensation ... due to yasuos nature i would rather prefer him to get a rework thou

also if you people of the boards know (not many people know) yasuo's q is made in a way that after reaching certain ad it deals less damage than his autos when he crits ... now imagine yasuo fighting a guy with randuins ... using q will gimp his damage

i dont see those champions working well when they can be counter itemized just like zed

8 Comments

Betoldia PrimeAug 22, 20152 votes

Its actually one of the best item fixes they have done yet. because i have gone full tank and these 2 guys delete me even tho i have like 400 armour because CRIT DEALS 80% DMG after armr reduction, so if you hitting me with 1000 crit, with my 400 amr, i would still take 700~ dmg, at least now crit IS affected by armr and lowered to 400~500. meaning i can ACTUALLY do my job as the tank and not get insta deleted by Yasuo so they can take down everyone else on my team.

Knight SoIaire Aug 22, 20151 votes

yeah but at the same time there isnt much else that yasuo can do to be usefull he cant tank due to crappy base damage ... he cant deal sustained damage due to his range in the end the only thing that makes yasuo worthwhile is his capability to delete people

ashe can live with this ... but yasuo could use some work

Betoldia PrimeAug 24, 20151 votes

I see your point, but no Champion should be able to "delete" the enemy tank, tanks are there to hold the line and call the fire, if they get insta deleted, whats the point of using them anyways

Knight SoIaire Aug 26, 20151 votes

true

but thats how riot's ballance works

champion designer goes wild and ballance team can just make the thing function in whatever way it can

thats how yasuo from a meele carry who actualy had a chance at functioning ... became something among the lines of a common assasin whos main competition is to blow anything he touches up pr to blow up himself

ToasteyAug 22, 20151 votes

randuin's wouldnt make ashe and yasuo absolutely useless late-game the way zhonyas/qss does for zed

not unless all 5 people buy randuins. target selection is always a thing. it might hurt ashe a bit more since she'll probably be forced to hit tanks more often than yas would, but everything should be fine with some armour pen and/or botrk

LaughingStaplerAug 22, 20151 votes

The masteries from the defense tree and the Randuin's crit. reduction probably don't stack additively but I haven't tested.

Knight SoIaire Aug 22, 20151 votes

yeah but randuins and ninja tabi will actualy have to add up

i totaly forgot that item

Rabid HuskyAug 26, 20151 votes

i dont mind it to much it can be a bit much when your behind but hey its nothing to crazy hell its saved me a couple of times as a tank and its saved some enemys a couple of times