Show us those Stats Riot

Alüe·Jun 3, 2016·6 votes·408 views

You've forced dynamic queue down our throats. Have done a superb job of pissing off the community (congrats don't think i've ever seen a community this upset before). Yet you are still sticking to Dynamic queue, because supposedly you have the numbers to back it up. So why don't you release them? As a solo player, i'd be much more accepting of changes if I saw the actual survey data. Why can't you show it? what is confidential about it? I'm sure you have received a substantial amount of negative feedback these last few months. Keep in mind your reputations are on the line as Developers. Do something for once and talk to your god dam community about why this should still be implemented (show us the fucken numbers).

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9L9L9L9L9L9L9LJun 3, 20161 votes

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ofartJun 3, 20161 votes

Who even cares about the numbers? So many statistics can be skewed to show what people want and DQ is mostly a cash grab. Ranked players pay for more content than those sticking to normals so Riot is trying to move everyone to it (removing a lot of game modes in the process).

Even if they had them, should casuals really determine how the game's COMPETITIVE mode is played? Should we really sacrifice the significance/meaning of rankings to have some casuals screw up ranked instead of playing normals? Ranked is for the players who take the game seriously and should be a serious mode with a consistent experience. Allowing everything from solo to 5s is the opposite of that and devalues rankings at every level.

AlüeJun 3, 20161 votes

If they are going to claim something, such as the majority of users prefer dynamic queue. I need to see numbers that support that claim. Otherwise you are spouting shit, and making the decision solely based off you own judgement. Yes I don't like the casual scene play in Dynamic queue and riot needs to learn to cater to both ends. Having those numbers purely lets me know if it was a developer being stubborn or they were really doing what they thought was best off the communities response. Hence why i want to see it all, they can edit out players information and release questions used in participating samples and the results.

ofartJun 3, 20161 votes

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If they are going to claim something, such as the majority of users prefer dynamic queue. I need to see numbers that support that claim. Otherwise you are spouting shit, and making the decision solely based off you own judgement. Yes I don't like the casual scene play in Dynamic queue and riot needs to learn to cater to both ends. Having those numbers purely lets me know if it was a developer being stubborn or they were really doing what they thought was best off the communities response. Hence why i want to see it all, they can edit out players information and release questions used in participating samples and the results.

The majority might prefer it, just like maybe the majority preferred Windows XP to OS X. That isn't even a good argument for something.

QuephaJun 3, 20163 votes

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Who even cares about the numbers? So many statistics can be skewed to show what people want and DQ is mostly a cash grab.

This is probably the reason Riot doesn't give us a closer look at the data: It wouldn't solve anything because the players crying about something will just claim that any facts that go against their view are inaccurate or outright lies.

ofartJun 3, 20161 votes

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This is probably the reason Riot doesn't give us a closer look at the data: It wouldn't solve anything because the players crying about something will just claim that any facts that go against their view are inaccurate or outright lies.

Would you take a poll on how to do surgery or what medicine to take? A ranked system needs to be well thought out, consistent and fair. It's not a popularity contest. DQ rankings aren't consistent even for those of the same rank. Someone who got to said rank by premades shows different skills/experiences than a solo player. If you can't compare players of the same rank on your ladder, your system is fundamentally broken.

BeeCuzJun 3, 20161 votes

patience padawan, the implementation of reduced queue times is an iterative process that requires time and feedback data. The new fill mechanism has only been out for a day.

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