Another thread about mordekaiser's current statut.

Khâmul··1 votes·354 views

Good morning (6 am here ^^) This is not going to be a complait or anything else. it's just that I never believed in the item 3078 withMordekaiser . I used to play the old morde as a bruiser Ap after the removal of DFG and now,it's always the same. I'd like to have opinions about it. I really think AD mordekaiser isn't that worthy. Of course,he has good ad ratios on his Q spell but if you build him AD,you'll face a problem:

  • Your Q spell will have a little bigger numbers in term of damages. BUT it's bonus MAGIC DAMAGES (so with no magic penetration ,it's not that effective . just like katarina ultimate) and if you tell me that it's because of the sheen, i find it's like building full AP talon to take lichbane:it'll make damages because of the lichbane but after that,nothing ^^
  • Your W won't do damages and won't heal shit :/
  • Your E will make ridiculous damages,this is sad.
  • Your ultimate won't make damages either (if he cursed guy is fleeing,you'll be lucky if he dies after 10 sec of dot and if you need that ghost as fast as p0ossible,it's hard, sometimes ,teamfights are a mess,assassins can screw up,it's normal. If you're in danger,you can focus the guy with most hp to survive and it won't be efficient (good base stats,but lacking something). In the end,i'm not really convinced by trinity morde and never tried to play it.

I adapted my play style to the new morde: -My Q is really effective (nothing to trinity builds)(apply rylai and lyandris dot)

  • W do good damages,adding the lyandris effect,i can melt hp from tanks. the heals are really good. sometimes I go in the jungle : E a group of monsters,than W and i feel like darius.
  • E becomes a good tools for poking (I mean a really good one. I up him lvl 3 before leveling the Q spell(I mean,upgrading it,because i take it). by that time,i play really safe to avoid being killed before the level 6
  • the ultimate is deadly. usually the rylai + lyandris effect +ignite + dot Garen tee a good death to squishies. In teamfights,when you're in the middle of the fight ,you'll notice the difference in the amount of damages you're making.. Here's my core build item 1303 item 3151 item 3116 item 3065 item 3143 concerning the runes: armor/lvl ,mr/lvl ,magic pen and cd/lvl quintescence For the last slot, I used to take item 3152 (to reach 40% cdr and get spellvamp) but i'm reading in the pbe that some nerfs are incoming about that (grevious wounds provoked by AA,pretty much disgusting haha) I was like "ok adc's,i wanted to play it kewl with sustain,like relax(let it go Thresh ) and chill but now you've awaken the beast" So for now i'm testing item 3089 and item 3285 ,item 3157 (just like the old morde) to replace item 3152 .

I have two thoughts about it but before that,i'll just make you remember the contest: This item 3139 will get some lifesteal,so more adc will rush it (i think it won't change for high ranking) but i was really happy in normal when i saw an adc without it :p

for now ,i'm thinking about capitalizing my ultimate to focus on AP( AP ghost,much damages and much bruiser at the same time,screw the adc :p ) carrys and make sure to have an ad assassin with me (i usually play premade) to get rid of the ad (or putting him low enough to OS him with ultimate+ E) It'll be long to describe each situation because teamfights are different. But if you need help,i'll be happy to give you more informations or tips .

Now, I have to study. see you soon :)

Khâmul

2 Comments

Khâmul1 votes

Up ( i'd like to have some opinions, this thread is important for me :) )

Ergono1 votes

In the PBE you've got changes to Trinity Force that I would actually say benefit Morde (other than the increased cost. Most notably the 10% CDR without having to invest in item 3152 or an item that you could live without just to get the stat.

To really get a good since of how well Tri-force is with Morde regardless if its full AD or AP is doing the math and understanding A. How well the Spellblade proc improves your damage output in comparison to say Liandry. B. How well are your cool downs. With season 6 you can easily get Morde 45% CDR making his skills all roughly below 4 seconds other than his Ult. That means his SpellBlade will proc with every spell cast. This is physical damage mind you which is important see below.

item 3146 With the reworking of the gunblade in season 6 15% of your damage dealt heals you. Now for Mordes abilities except for R these are considered aoe, thus 15%>>5%, which is why item 3152 is a wasted item even with the 10% CDR. But with High CDR and a high spell blade dmg from his base AD and possibly Steraks you are doing massive physical single target damage 550+ per spell blade proc. Liandry and even more AP doesn't really match up to Trinity Force because they are all ability based and really only benefit his W, which requires 4 seconds to do maximum damage anyway.

Now lets sweeten the deal. Add item 2140 buff which now heals for 15% of physical damage dealt. item 3078 +item 3146 +item 2140 your spell blade procs will now heal for 30% (I haven't even discussed runic armor mastery, which increase the heal even more). that is 30% of just your spell blade every proc. So not only does it push out consistent damage which is not magic (great for avoiding defenses) it provides a sustain tool.

Granted yes going more AP does more stable damage across skills he's still a burst oriented champion where I feelitem 3151 is not as effective other than his ultimate where item 3116 actually synergies with item 3151 . This is especially true if you go Health Armor items like item 3065 and item 3143 your damage actually drops off you would need to go item 3001 item 3157

If you want to be brusier season six you will go 12/18/0 or 0/18/12 taking storm-raider as your keystone as it gives you great movement speed that you can easily achieve with your Q.

item 3078 item 3053 item 3146 item 1333 item 3065 item 3143 item 2140

because you are building health you AP effectiveness will shrink unless you can rationalize item 3027 which is getting a +20AP buff at its base form.

But in the end for Morde to Kill he has to be close, so unless you go Full AP (which your build is not) his abilities should compliment his Q and Proc'ing Spell blade.

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