Does Camille seem like a better Jarvan IV in gameplay?

darkdill·Dec 24, 2016·3 votes·3,110 views

Jarvan's ult traps people, but has bugs and can be dashed out of (or even WALKED out of on occasion). Camille's ult can't be escaped EVEN WITH FLASH!

Jarvan can counter snares with his E+Q combo. Camille doesn't need to use 2 different abilities to do the same.

Jarvan has a decent shield with no stat scaling and a mana cost. Camille has a shield that scales off max HP and no cost.

Jarvan has built-in ArPen. Camille can do true damage and bonus magic damage with her ult.

But lemme guess: "Comparing Champions is wrong!!!"

I'm just calling it like I see it.

9 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWDec 24, 20162 votes

Jarvan's ult traps people, but has bugs and can be dashed out of (or even WALKED out of on occasion). Camille's ult can't be escaped EVEN WITH FLASH!

Yes, J4's ult traps a group & some can probably walk out which happens in rare times, or can simply be dashed out. Camille only traps one person, so good job leaving that out.

Jarvan can counter snares with his E+Q combo. Camille doesn't need to use 2 different abilities to do the same.

J4's EQ combo knocks-up up enemies as well while being also able to dash over walls. Camille's E may also cover great distance, but she can only stuns enemies for a minimal duration.

Jarvan has a decent shield with no stat scaling and a mana cost. Camille has a shield that scales off max HP and no cost.

It scales with the number of enemy champions' hit plus slowing enemies (again, good job leaving it out), while his shield is blockable to all types of damage.

Camille's shield can only block one specific damage type, and her shield type only changes on who Camille targets first. So let's say you accidentally hit Support Sona & gain an AP shield, so good luck using it against Yasuo top, Reksai jungle, Zed mid & Caitlyn ADC.

Jarvan has built-in ArPen. Camille can do true damage and bonus magic damage with her ult.

Armor Penetration on enemies, not just on himself like Darius. So technically, enemies' Armor was lowered for J4's whole team. Camille's True Damage on the other hand only benefits herself.

Conclusion? Yes, comparing champions like this is INDEED wrong.

ScissorsNstuffDec 24, 20161 votes

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Does Camille seem like a better Jarvan IV in gameplay?

jarvan does not get bitchslapped by anything with more hp than an adc

RalanrDec 24, 20161 votes

You're right. J4 takes more skill than Camille.

PermabannedGarenDec 24, 20161 votes

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You're right. J4 takes more skill than Camille.

Probably not to be honest.

His skill cap is all right, but Camille probably requires better mechanics and perhaps even decision making. Her kit has a bit more depth so there's more potential for plays and misplays.

RalanrDec 24, 20161 votes

I wasn't even being serious.

PupelDec 24, 20161 votes

You are not being fair. Jarven has AoE damage, slow and armor shred. Jarvans Shield blocks all types of damage. Jarvan is not required to stay in his ult to keep people there. Jarvan has a AoE knockup which is way better than the singler target stun of camillie. Basically Jarvan is better in every way as far as teamfighting comes than Camille

FlahertyDec 24, 20161 votes

When comparing what both champions do to 1 target then yes Camille is better, but Jarvan can do those things to the entire enemy team potentially. Jarvan can attack multiple targets simultaneously, can confine a whole team within his ult in certain circumstances, and cc multiple enemies with his e-q combo, and his shield is stronger if he hits multiple targets and shield all damage not just one damage type.

KilanostDec 24, 20161 votes

Camille vs. JarvanIV time. Who wants to represent who? Post video of the 1v1 here pls. lol

ElishevaDec 24, 20161 votes

Jarvan is great in group fights, camille is good at dueling. Difference is, if you are a good player, or even a bad player (me), jarvan can be a threat.