If the enemies champion counters me, & I work their health down 10-20%, don't gank.

Stand Alone Wolf·Apr 1, 2016·3 votes·1,220 views

I can't stand working an enemies health bar down when it's hard enough to just get in any good pokes without leaving behind 30% health from their harass only for my jungler to ping: "On my way" And I'm dropping mad alert pings, and even telling them: "Please, Don't gank!" Only for them to sneak around from their side of the jungle, to take the kill, and leave. Even though I get farm, I missed kill gold, and they either tp back real quick with their new Items, or I then get vengeance ganked from their Jungler after trying to quickly get the soon-to-be ks from my jungler. who thinks walking away and saying: "Sorry." fixes everything. No. No you're not sorry otherwise you would have listened ffs.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

27 Comments

Spanked eGirlApr 1, 20162 votes

Its not simple though.

A lot of matchups vary in top lane, sometimes you want the jungle to get kills. You should coordinate with them so you at least get assist gold

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20162 votes

I'm simply talking about getting that one jungler who completely does whatever they want, and when they see a kill, they just go for it regardless if you want that, or the assist. More so people who aren't jungling to help, but jungling to just take kills.

the Anarchit3chtApr 1, 20162 votes

You don't own a kill lol.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20162 votes

No one said I owned anything only you did. I'm simply saying if I need the gold from a kill as it will help me with my lane then as a jungler, please be kind enough to understand if I don't want a gank.

the Anarchit3chtApr 1, 20163 votes

You're acting like you own it because you're getting mad if someone else gets it.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

Mad? More like behind.

If I can acquire the kill, It can benefit me in my lane. I don't get mad, I'd like to not be the scape-goat for everyone on my team as the reason we are losing, (Still having the chance to come back) or the reason we lost because it does happen. Simply put, if I worked the enemies health bar down, and plan to set the kill up properly without too much consequence, figure out what I can buy with it, if I will have time to push, then run back to lane, ect, and jungle takes kill, enemy tp's back to lane, and resumes fighting me under turret, I feel as though nothing was gained, and I'm either forced to back after they get the kill, then forced to tp to get farm, and get minions off my turret before they tp. There are also times where the jungler will gank when I'm pinging them not to, and the enemy has nearly all their health, and they go in regardless of my ping, and I try to assist them, and we both die. I just want my team as a whole to understand what is communicated among us instead of flat-out ignoring someone.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

Of course, But what can you do when they don't want to coordinate with you? You do your best right? I'd like to do more than my best. I'd like to work with my team so we can all do our best that match, not be put in a match with someone who refuses to work with you.

McprowlingtonApr 1, 20162 votes

Sorry

You should be happy to get a 'sorry'

Nobody owes you jack shit, this guy just went into your lane and legit killed the enemy laner for you and you find a way to carelessly die and somehow it's the junglers fault.

You might actually epitomize everything that's wrong with low elo solo Q.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

These assumptions are on the rampant.

If I ask someone nicely to not gank, because I currently do not need one, and they do, they intend to take the kill. Fine Saying "Sorry" when I've died to the enemy trying to assist the jungler in the gank so they aren't alone is like rubbing salt in the wound which is even worse when they completely disregard you, and you don't even get assist gold. They ignore you, but then have the nerve to say sorry knowing you not only asked them, but they deliberately did something you asked them not to do, as you felt in that moment you had more than just a chance to kill the enemy under your turret to receive the gold, and felt you could most definitely benefit from it, and later be able to assist your team faster.

Just because someone counters me, doesn't mean they 100% win no matter what. Could you not be so ignorant of someone you don't even know, and refrain from making any more wild assumptions about how I'd play?

McprowlingtonApr 1, 20161 votes

Just because someone counters me, doesn't mean they 100% win no matter what. Could you not be so ignorant of someone you don't even know, and refrain from making any more wild assumptions about how I'd play?

What does that have to do with anything?

In your example you specifically said your jungle comes in and gets the kill. As long as you don't die, there is literally zero downside. Even if you don't get assist gold.

Stand Alone WolfApr 2, 20161 votes

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this guy just went into your lane and legit killed the enemy laner for you and you find a way to carelessly die and somehow it's the junglers fault.

It was in response to me "Carelessly dying." I'm on the topic of being countered so you should be able to put two, and two together. If not? What I'm saying is that just because someone counters me, that doesn't mean I'd just go full reckless, and die without exhausting my options. I use my head regardless of my rank. As for me being the epitome of low elo, I was a silver III last season, and still climbing. Don't think you can walk all over me with that terrible statement because you're currently a Silver 4. I could care less if you were a silver 4, challenger 1 or even if our ranks were flipped around. You using ranks as a reason for my actions (Since from your statement it sounds as if this is quite typical of low elo players) does nothing but show how much of an arse you truly are.

As I've stated before, I exhaust my options, and try to work with my team-mates no matter how difficult it may be. I'm not some flamer, nor am I an enraged ten year old. I'm someone who's part of the community who wants to help who ever I get stuck with in a match, and hopefully keep negative vibes out of the match.

McprowlingtonApr 2, 20161 votes

Lol I wouldn't pull the rank card on anyone. I'm talking about attitude-wise, my elo included, you came off as a typical selfish laner that blames the jungler for everything.

But i mean, i think you're just misreading everything i say (and possibly vice-versa) and ragefully downvoting me so we should probably just stop.

Stand Alone WolfApr 2, 20161 votes

Do you even know what a troll is? I'm seriously not trolling, and mean everything I said in my post. If you don't have a proper rebuttal that's fine. Don't make me out to be a troll please I get enough of that from others.

If we are indeed done though please don't respond to this. I hope you take the time to read my statements, and understand what it was that I had said without dismissing me as "Being a troll."

McprowlingtonApr 2, 20162 votes

edited, troll was hastily typed. This conversation is painfully frustrating because it feels like you aren't listening to me and apparently you feel the same.

Stand Alone WolfApr 2, 20161 votes

YES! Let's agree to disagree I'm on my PS4 trying to de-stress. Have a good day/afternoon/evening.

Stand Alone WolfApr 2, 20161 votes

I feel I must inform you whether you care or not, that I'm as nice as I can be, and in-game make sure my team understands the thanks, and appreciation I convey to them for each, and every action done. It's key to keeping your team-mates heads on straight, and can even help you turn a match around compared to a complete toxic fest in the chat. It's not a free-for-all vs 5, it's a 5v5, and we should be able to communicate, and work together. in a sense, I want to play soloQ matches with randoms as if we were friends who all queue'd up together, and can communicate well.

Zero Skill TankApr 1, 20161 votes

So basically TP is abusable BS spell. Yea we know that. Used to be even worse.

SkorpioApr 1, 20161 votes

And when your counter kills you: gg best jungler na. I told you I was counter picked yet no ganks

Take the free farm and getting ahead in xp. Back and buy yourself. Then ask your jg to come back for a free kill since summoners are down. This second time just pushing him out of lane with no tp will get you even father ahead.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

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And when your counter kills you: gg best jungler na. I told you I was counter picked yet no ganks

Firstly...

I understand your terrible assumption about how I am in-game towards other players since you not only do not know me, but there are plenty of toxic players. I must say...

You're wrong.

I'm probably thee least toxic player on my team, and I say this not as someone who is "Not being toxic," but clearly toxic, but as someone who does his best to keep the team's morale high, and even at times trying to resolve conflict on my own team. I take pride in my green ribbon as corny as that sounds, but seriously? Don't make terrible assumptions about me

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Secondly... I do what I can in my lane if I am countered from freezing lane, hugging turret, poking under the safety of my turret (probably one of my better options,) and of course communication with not just my jungler, but my team since.. . well I'm on a team! If I'm heavily countered, and I manage to poke down the enemy to a good 20% health after patiently doing my best to keep them at bay and wait for the opportune moment to go for it sitting on 70-80% health under my turret, I'd like to be able to attempt taking the kill gold. It's not like I'm going for it under their turret, or mid-lane, I'm talking about them being close enough to take turret damage if they attack me with said 20% health. I'd like to receive the gold from them so I can quickly push out my lane, back, purchase needed items, and then not tp back to lane, but go back to lane so I have tp for emergencies.

Even more so when our Jungler has a good 5 kills already, and I'm sitting on starting items. I don't bitch at my jungler for not ganking, In-fact, I try to assist them by helping other lanes! I'd like to do as much as I possibly can for my team even if our comp is bad, we have little to no communication with each other, ect, but sometimes it get so bad that my turret is the only turret standing of the first in each lane, and I get 3v1'd under turret with maybe one core item and a pot. I just want the income from reckless over-extended players. It helps me get to my team-mates sides faster.

SkorpioApr 1, 20161 votes

You're right, it was an assumption based on your post. If you're not toxic and don't criticize the jungle for not coming, good.

You have talked a lot about team this team that, but in the same breathe say my lane my kill my gold. As a jungler, if you're pushed that fat, better believe I'm going to secure that kill. 1) it never puts you behind unless your choices after the kill are bad. At the very least your opponent is behind xp wise and summoners. 2) if you died during then you played it wrong. 3) I can now take that kill gold and instead of helping one lane, I'll spread it to the other lanes.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

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You're right, it was an assumption based on your post.

Based off my post? Nowhere did I type anything about dying to my counter, nor did I type anything death related. I think you may have misread something.

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

hmm. . . I guess you could make the presumption that getting "Vengeance ganked by the enemy" would mean death, and if that is what you are referring to, then I understand, although death was not the outcome that came to mind when referring to their vengeance gank.

Sneakyy XDApr 1, 20161 votes

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Complaints about a jungler successfully ganking

Nice try, jungle main

Stand Alone WolfApr 1, 20161 votes

I am indeed a jungle main, but I enjoy playing top. Are you pardoning a player who ignores the team so they can do what they want? "It's a free country" sure, but if you're on a team, please work with everyone on it.

Angry MonsterApr 2, 20161 votes

#bronzelife

Stand Alone WolfApr 2, 20161 votes

Seriously I'm climbing out of this hole. I was Silver III last season, and was on my way to gold believe it or not (I don't care) I haven't been in bronze for too long. #League of ass umptions