Syndra Syndra Syndra

Asud·2/13/2019, 10:43:06 PM·3 votes·1,204 views

I wrote a dozen of these and will continue until i get a rioter. Why is it that a champion, designed as lane bully, actually gets bullied in lane by pretty much everyone? Why is it that, the so-called Press R to delete champion actually can't execute a target with 20% hp and no MR with a 5 ball ultimate, while someone like Lux does more damage with AOE, global spell, and also gets rewarded if she kills you by taking the time of her cooldown. Syndra is the single, easiest champion to kill in league of legends, yet she isnt rewarded at all for keeping alive and hitting those abilities. Her Q is primary damage spell. And while most mages have like 80% Ap ratio on their primary spells Syndra has only 65%. And again she has one of the hardest skillshots to land in league of legends. Against syndra in lane, you can literally forget the boots as you can see her Q animation and walk out every time. If you have hands she cant hit you. same with her E, even easier with her W. most mages can outpush her. All mages outdamage her. Literally everyone. But even that wouldnt be an issue if she brought something other than damage to the table. Her kit is designed so she has to build glass-cannon full AP She has no sustain, no shields, no movement speed. No reliable CC. she has to cast 2 of her spells to CC a champion. 2! that is only seen by Brand in this game. But Brand can go liandrys first item smash head on keyboard and get a penta. What can Syndra do? Press all buttons. Die. While getting outdamaged by support who has 2 levels less and 2 thousand gold less. They could literally buff half of her kit like they did to Sejuani, and she would still be mehh tier. Slow on her W isnt even a real slow, its irrelevant. Her stun is the easiest thing to miss in this game and even than its not that dangerous when ure cool cuz she cant kill you. She needs massive buffs or mini rework, Like get movespeed when you hit Q or killing minions with Q gives part of the mana back. or make the ultimate into some sort of execute, so garen with 50hp cant just press W and survive with 40 hp. Or give her a shield which procs of of some combo or whatever. Something that isnt braindead but instead rewards mastering the champion and playing her correctly. Edit : Go on downvote me, all of you that got deleted once in season 6 or 7 by one decent Syndra.

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Rock MD2/13/2019, 11:00:07 PM1 votes

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Why is it that a champion, designed as lane bully, actually gets bullied in lane by pretty much everyone?

She still bullies every lane that isn't a counterpick. You just have to be really good at spacing and being super aggressive.

Why is it that, the so-called Press R to delete champion actually can't execute a target with 20% hp and no MR with a 5 ball ultimate, while someone like Lux does more damage with AOE, global spell, and also gets rewarded if she kills you by taking the time of her cooldown.

Because Lux isn't as strong of a bully, has much higher CDs, is extremely transparent to play against, has both lower burst and dps, and doesn't shove nearly as hard as Syndra?

Also, according to the ratios on their ultimates Lux - 300/400/500(75%AP) Syndra - (270/405/540)(60%AP) + 90/135/180(20%AP) per ball Syndra has higher damage on her ultimate so long as a single ball is out. So no it doesn't do more damage.

Syndra is the single, easiest champion to kill in league of legends, yet she isnt rewarded at all for keeping alive and hitting those abilities.

You're rewarded with one of the longest catch range abilities, high bully potential, priority for most of the game (again, except into counterpicks), and high DPS going into the late-game.

Her Q is primary damage spell. And while most mages have like 80% Ap ratio on their primary spells Syndra has only 65%.

and?

And again she has one of the hardest skillshots to land in league of legends.

Just because it's small doesn't mean it's difficult to land. Even if it is, that's a small tradeoff for having no cast time.

Against syndra in lane, you can literally forget the boots as you can see her Q animation and walk out every time. If you have hands she cant hit you. same with her E, even easier with her W.

Maybe you need to stick to an easier champion than.

most mages can outpush her.

lol

All mages outdamage her.

also lol

Literally everyone. But even that wouldnt be an issue if she brought something other than damage to the table.

She has a stun and a slow???

Her kit is designed so she has to build glass-cannon full AP

That's not necessarily a bad thing.

She has no sustain, no shields, no movement speed. No reliable CC.

It's not unreliable just because it's a skillshot. Also, it's a knockback AND a stun. As for shields, sustain, and MS she doesn't really need those.

she has to cast 2 of her spells to CC a champion. 2! that is only seen by Brand in this game. But Brand can go liandrys first item smash head on keyboard and get a penta. What can Syndra do?

E CC's a champion. Landing a spell first gives her a more powerful CC, with an extremely long range.

Press all buttons. Die. While getting outdamaged by support who has 2 levels less and 2 thousand gold less.

Bullshit

They could literally buff half of her kit like they did to Sejuani, and she would still be mehh tier.

Also bullshit

Slow on her W isnt even a real slow, its irrelevant.

Why? Because it's not >50%?

Her stun is the easiest thing to miss in this game and even than its not that dangerous when ure cool cuz she cant kill you.

Just play another champion. I understand that Syndra feels underwhelming right now but it's clear you don't know the first thing about the champ and she's too difficult for you.

Tahminatrix 2/13/2019, 11:53:32 PM1 votes

Nerf the knockback on her E, that's definitely draining power off of her kit if her knockback cd is low enough to the point where a lot of immobile melees wont ever touch her despite her never stunning them.

Atleast you can dodge lux`s snare. (Just not at melee range)

fire2632/14/2019, 1:32:59 AM1 votes

Let's hopefully write a constructive response, and not some rant I go off into. First things first, no, I will not deny she is weak. She is pretty weak right now, but like many mages still good in capable hands. There are plenty of mages that aren't necessarily strong but can still be playable and usable as long as time and effort is put into it (Anivia, Asol, Ori, etc).

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I wrote a dozen of these and will continue until i get a rioter. Why is it that a champion, designed as lane bully, actually gets bullied in lane by pretty much everyone?

Actually, She probably does a lot better than a lot of mages in lane, and definitely can win some matchups. Yes, she has counters, but pretty much everyone countering her is an exaggeration.

Why is it that, the so-called Press R to delete champion actually can't execute a target with 20% hp and no MR with a 5 ball ultimate, while someone like Lux does more damage with AOE, global spell, and also gets rewarded if she kills you by taking the time of her cooldown.

Well, first of all your R does plenty more damage than a Lux R, even more if you have more balls out, and it's point and click for the tradeoff of not being AOE and having less range. Lux ult on paper is better, but you can't just compare one champions abilities to another without looking at the rest of their kits.

Syndra is the single, easiest champion to kill in league of legends, yet she isnt rewarded at all for keeping alive and hitting those abilities.

She definitely is rewarded for hitting Q's, and your E is one of the best CC's in the game imo.

Her Q is primary damage spell. And while most mages have like 80% Ap ratio on their primary spells Syndra has only 65%.

Yea, but her Q is also on a much shorter cooldown and 65% ap ratio is quite generous for something that's almost a 2 second cooldown with CDR, not to mention more damage rank 5.

And again she has one of the hardest skillshots to land in league of legends.

Won't argue with this, her Q is hard to hit.

Against syndra in lane, you can literally forget the boots as you can see her Q animation and walk out every time. If you have hands she cant hit you.

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same with her E, even easier with her W.

Not really, her E is an even faster Asol ultimate in terms of CC, easily being able to disengage with any melee champions, not to mention it can turn into AOE super long range stun. W is somewhat hard to hit but it's good waveclear and the slow is quite strong.

most mages can outpush her. All mages outdamage her.

Not really, her waveclear is one of the best and her damage is no joke if she's hitting spheres.

Literally everyone. But even that wouldnt be an issue if she brought something other than damage to the table.

Good catch potential, long range AOE stun, slow, consistent damage with Q, easy disengage?

Her kit is designed so she has to build glass-cannon full AP

So are most mages, and she can still buy zhonyas etc.

She has no sustain, no shields, no movement speed. No reliable CC.

Her CC is quite reliable

she has to cast 2 of her spells to CC a champion. 2! that is only seen by Brand in this game. But Brand can go liandrys first item smash head on keyboard and get a penta. What can Syndra do?

She still can CC with one E or W, for two abilities she gets one of the longest range CC's that's aoe.

Press all buttons. Die. While getting outdamaged by support who has 2 levels less and 2 thousand gold less.

Well if you're just pressing buttons and hoping for the best I don't think that's how you should be playing her.

They could literally buff half of her kit like they did to Sejuani, and she would still be mehh tier.

Not quite, and Sejuani changes were more of a rebalance not a straight buff.

Slow on her W isnt even a real slow, its irrelevant.

45% slow lategame is pretty strong, lasts 1.5 seconds too.

Her stun is the easiest thing to miss in this game and even than its not that dangerous when ure cool cuz she cant kill you.

It's super long range and AOE, easy to hit in teamfights. Yea, no.

She needs massive buffs or mini rework,

Not massive buffs, and her kit is still viable enough that she doesn't need a mini rework.

Like get movespeed when you hit Q

Could be interesting.

or killing minions with Q gives part of the mana back.

Yes, this would be nice.

or make the ultimate into some sort of execute, so garen with 50hp cant just press W and survive with 40 hp.

Perhaps, but then damage would have to be lowered if you just use it on a 100% hp target as that would be quite strong of an ability.

Or give her a shield which procs of of some combo or whatever.

Doesn't fit her theme, nope.

Something that isnt braindead but instead rewards mastering the champion and playing her correctly.

She is quite rewarding right now, perhaps not strong but definitely usable. I could see her getting buffed, but you seem to make her out to be kalista tier, and no, she is nowhere near that. Her kit is still usable if played right, and can be quite good when combined with a solid team which is why she's still played a decent amount in LCS. Some buffs and QOL changes would be nice, but nothing much more than that.