Taric buffs are truly, truly, truly outrageous

AlienPrimate·Jul 17, 2017·2 votes·793 views

I was always wanting changes to Taric's Q to make it actually useful for something other than resetting his passive but this is not OK. Nearly 800 heal AoE with max stacks and 625 with 4 stacks which has about a 2 second cooldown is a bit over the top. I'm still confused as to why Riot thought he needed buffs and he now has the highest win rate with the nerf hammer likely coming in the near future. Is there any other champion besides an absurdly stacked Nasus who can just walk up to the Nexus towers and kill them without minions?

30 Comments

Joseph GladstoneJul 17, 20172 votes

i dont think item 3040 is a support item

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

It's not, but I find tear to be the easiest way to fix Taric's mana problems. Even with it I still run out of mana without blue buff.

Joseph GladstoneJul 17, 20171 votes

doesnt it say with full support build

DrCyanideJul 17, 20173 votes

Tear is a recommended Mana item for Support Zilean, I'm not sure I'd rule out the build over that.

Joseph GladstoneJul 17, 20171 votes

well zilean is a mage while taric is more of a tank, but i dont know much so

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

Taric goes oom in about 10 seconds without a tear item. Both tear items are good but I feel the stronger heal from AP is better for a support. In top or jungle I get manamune.

Joseph GladstoneJul 17, 20172 votes

i understand that he is mana hungry but i would normally fix that with item 3025 item 3110 and maybe the occasional item 3800 my point is i dont think seraphs is good in the long run as there are better items in a real game

Done25Jul 17, 20172 votes

Nice 40+ min build with blue buff and an Archangel's Staff at 26 min in.

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

Timing on the video doesn't change the fact that he can tank 2 towers indefinitely at 50 minutes in.

Done25Jul 17, 20172 votes

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Timing on the video doesn't change the fact that he can tank 2 towers indefinitely at 50 minutes in.

So can most other tanks by that point. Like the 6k+ HP Cho, or the Ali with his 70% damage reduction ult.

Pandemic PunchJul 17, 20172 votes

New Taric is not outrageous.

JbelsJul 17, 20171 votes

I mean, ignoring the fact that you have an Archangel staff, and probably maxed out on infernal and mountain drakes

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

I had 1 infernal drake and mountain drakes have no effect unless minions are present. The archangel staff is my core build because the 25% mana cost reduction is about needed with Taric's mana costs. This isn't a build I made just to do this. I use it in real games.

JbelsJul 17, 20172 votes

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I had 1 infernal drake and mountain drakes have no effect unless minions are present. The archangel staff is my core build because the 25% mana cost reduction is about needed with Taric's mana costs. This isn't a build I made just to do this. I use it in real games.

Mountain drakes cause your damage to do bonus true damage to towers and epic monsters

TryMucinexJul 17, 20171 votes

Small misunderstanding on both sides. AlienPrimate was probably referring to the tower. Minions have to be present near towers for towers to receive true damage. For epic monsters though, you don't need minion as you know.

Don't forget to consider the fact that it's practice mode! Seems like an unrealistic build at this time. Baron scales over time as well. So it's kind of weak earlier, I think.

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

Mountain drake doesn't make any difference for Baron. I soloed Baron using 3 items at level 16 with no dragons using my jungle build. As long as you have mana you basically can't die against objectives now.

Handy Sandy Jul 17, 20171 votes

it's gonna take a long time to stack that tear

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

Those are his normal cooldowns. I wasn't using cooldown reset from practice tool. The item actives would have reset if I was.

Handy Sandy Jul 17, 20171 votes

i just realized that t_t they were flashing for some reason unlike mine but idk

khorneyJul 17, 20171 votes

okay and e being nerfed is okay why?

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

I think Q being more than twice as strong more than makes up for E losing a bit of stun time late game.

khorneyJul 17, 20171 votes

umm longer cd, less stun is not worth it. like they stated we raised the damage on it....who fckn cares stupid fckn riot

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

It is a shorter cd though? It is now 13 second cd instead of 15 seconds.

khorneyJul 17, 20172 votes

longer there guy, 17 vs 14 secs.....yah thats soooo cool

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20171 votes

You are ignorant. Before it was 15 at all ranks. Now it is 17/16/15/14/13. The stun is exactly the same at rank 3 for duration and cooldown with more damage. At rank 5 the stun is shorter while the cooldown is shorter and damage is higher.

khorneyJul 17, 20172 votes

your ignorant.......no one ever maxes stun ever so what about the little penance of damage that it does......

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20172 votes

You don't have to max stun. You put 3 points in it and by level 5 it is down to a 15 second cooldown like before.

khorneyJul 17, 20172 votes

again no one will put 3 points into stun.....wqe or qwe is how you will always put points into taric. so when your lvl 15 youll be able to have the same cd as it used to be ? cool so awesome

AlienPrimateJul 17, 20172 votes

So I'm no one now. My skill level order is E,W,Q,E,E,R,Q,Q,Q,W,R,W,W,W,E,R,E,Q

I get E to level 3 for 15 second cooldown. Next I get Q to level 4 because you never have 5 charges when comboing so the 5th point just wastes mana. Then I max W.