I'm excited for the new Essence Reaver

AlienPrimate··50 votes·24,798 views

Taric item 3042 item 3025 item 3001 item 3508 item 3800 item 3009

3620 mana 2990 health 231 armor 109 magic resist 291 AD 2.39 attack speed (1.76 attack speed accounting for cast times)

3 second stun cooldown which lasts for 1.25 seconds 43-217 physical damage on hit (muramana) 36-0 mana gained on hit (essence reaver) 113 magic damage on hit (passive)

Assuming 50% mana, this is 1150 dps, 170 healing per second, and 188 shielding per second.

I thought I should mention that the biggest reason I'm looking forward to this on Taric is that Taric has severe mana problems. It isn't so much the cooldown. His stun cooldown just goes from 4 seconds to 3 seconds which isn't a huge deal. With 36 mana per hit at no mana, he gains about 71 mana with his 2 bravado attacks. His w and e cost 51 mana. This means that Taric can literally spam his abilities forever with this. He used to be able to do the same thing with the old essence reaver but it didn't work on towers and he would have to buy another crit item to really make use of it. I predict that with this build, Taric will be able to march it down mid without buffs or minions and take all 5 towers without backing (in practice mode of course).

84 Comments

Warlord Rhinark19 votes

Laughs in Truly, Truly, Outrageous.

Tails90161 votes

I thought it was "Truly" 3 times, not 2?

Warlord Rhinark8 votes

Depends on how homosexual you feel at the time.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

Opal for Harmony~ Taric

RightClick McGee2 votes

Tryndamere item 3070 No more essence for me item 3508

Linna Excel7 votes

It feels like Ez is going to break it in about 3 minutes after it goes live.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Eh not really. Think about it... what Ezreal player do you know that actually uses his basic attacks? Lmao.

For those players, their Q is only getting an extra 20% reduced CD. Nothin crazy.

MuffledGarbage1 votes

Ezreal Q is gonna proc the on-hit mana gain

Bârd5 votes

Scared for KogMaw abusing it to have 100% uptime on his W.

My Waifu Vanilla6 votes

Ezreal is arguably a bigger offender especially with his current double tear build. Ult into Q spam is going to be super obnoxious considering the Q will knock everything down by 20%+1.5 seconds. It also just gives Ezreal like 100 AD if he doesn't NEED the BotRK.

remakoro5 votes

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ZackTheWaffleMan5 votes

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LordGeovanni3 votes

I see you too dream of the retconned guy.

SooFr0sty1 votes

Ruby crystal still looks like a gusher to me

Häxel4 votes

It still remains a question if the as will activate on ult press or ult finish. Ult press would be realy good on trynda, taric, yi. Ult finish would suck for them and be good for jhin, lucian, mf. Kindred idk what would be better, maybe the finish cause in the ult you can't die so doesn't matter much?

AlienPrimate6 votes

I'm sure it is upon activation. It says "after your ultimate" but it only makes sense that it means upon activating it. It would be a pain to code if that wasn't the case.

Manslayer1 votes

It is a buff for 10 seconds after your ult. Once you auto attack during that time frame you get the 8 second reduction on cds and the attack speed.

RiotRiot Axes16 votes

Swapping to a "first basic attack after you ult grants the buff" paradigm in testing. That's not locked in, but seems promising so far. (I believe it's bugged on PBE today though :/ )

AlienPrimate5 votes

There is also something else I heard on the Taric mains reddit. Apparently essence reaver stops Taric's Q from resetting with the 20% cooldown refund. I don't play on PBE so I'm not sure if this is the case, but it may be worth looking into.

TheAndromeda4 votes

Hi, that post on r/taricmains was mine and I didn't provide much information there but the bug isn't specifically in regards to the 20% cdr.

When Taric builds Essence Reaver he no longer regains charges of Starlights Touch from hitting with Bravado empowered basic attacks. This means his heal cannot be used every 1-2 seconds but rather you need to wait for the natural cooldown to recharge 1 charge at a time ~10 seconds per.

I have recreated this bug both in an actual game as well as the practice tool multiple times. I submitted a bug report but I'm sure a Taric+Essence Reaver bug is not the highest priority. Hopefullt this can be fixed ASAP though as this item seems very fun on Taric.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Oh, I had assumed that it was because of the 20% refund on the unique passive, not just all the time.

LordGeovanni2 votes

Id rather that you let it tick directly after ult to force people to have to commit to it. Ps. any word on stopping these from stacking item 3156 item 3053 now that adcs cant build item 3053 anymore. Also these should get lower cooldowns late game and would be okay if they start at 120 cooldown for maw down to 40, and 100 for steraks down to 20

Sire Hippington2 votes

certainly a much better idea than the on ult press, there are alot ults with awfull long casts or even channle on champs that might want it.

I am Razgriz1 votes

Soooo not gonna share what that bug is I see.

Häxel1 votes

I realy like that Essense Reaver is now not anymore gated just to Crit champions but only champion that i'm still concerned is Jayce: Does his R counts as Ult? Seeing this on the jaycereddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/jaycemains/comments/8gdofl/jayce_with_er_and_40_cdr_can_now_q_twice_with_one/) i wonder if it will still get changed. Maybe a minimal Cooldown like 30s could be added cause i assume the item still would be better for Jayce as having to stick to Muramana if he wants to use more mana. At this point i could imagine Ezreal having Muramana/Manamune as a personal item similar to Viktor and his Hexcores :D

PokladnicaZla3 votes

New item 3508 + Presence of the mind is going to godly on some champions.

Refunds ... Refunds every where . . ..

TonyTonyMordecai3 votes

I believe Twisted Fate ADC will make a return

Or at least hybrid TF mid

LilxPaprika2 votes

TwistedFate <<

looking at probuilds.net it's kind of sad to see how singular (only AP) TF's builds are. maybe with this patch this will change.

shadowlord7232 votes

I feel like this item can also be abused on MasterYi . The amount of basic attacks he can squeeze in 8 seconds after ulting is absurd. Not to mention, his ult last longer after each takedown. This would cause him to be extra snowbally.

EDIT: I realized it said non-ultimate cooldowns instead of the ultimate cooldown. rip.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

I mean, it still makes it so he can stay in Alpha strike for like 4 of those 8 seconds

iTaLenTZ2 votes

As a former diamond 2 Taric main top prior to his rework my usual build was: Core items:item 3025 item 3068 item 3053 , usually the best 3: item 3009 item 3156 item 3075. Situational items where item 3065 item 3742 item 3083. I still think Taric top is unplayable now because your only damage output are AA's as a melee and the stun isn't reliable enough nor does it decent damage. The point and click stun was essential for him to get up close and personal and keep slowing the enemy with Iceborn while refreshing the cooldowns and putting high amount of damage. His old W was essential to deal damage as well the armor penetration to scale with your AA's. There is no way we will ever see Taric as a stand alone champ again because all of his abilities 'scale' with having teammates around you. His powerbudget is completely tied up with supporting others.

AlienPrimate2 votes

He is a very enemy dependent pick. He is great vs squishy ad enemies and some tanks but a terrible pick against ranged and AP. If you get someone like Tryndamere or Irelia, you should never lose.

iTaLenTZ1 votes

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He is a very enemy dependent pick. He is great vs squishy ad enemies and some tanks but a terrible pick against ranged and AP. If you get someone like Tryndamere or Irelia, you should never lose.

Tryndamere, Riven, Yasuo, Irelia, Jax and Fiora (prerework) were the easiest matchups. I have old vids somewhere where I rushed Thornmail and Tabi vs Tryndamere and towerdived him at lv 6 and killed him and proceeded to do that until he ragequit. Against Yasuo you let him farm the wave and then bait him to ult you so he can't escape. Fun days. Nobody expected the damage from Taric back then.

AlienPrimate2 votes

They still don't. I get first blood in probably half my games at level 1. Just go press the attack and spam q. Auto them about 6 times then ignite and you will kill them. The only way they live is if they use flash and you are too low to chase them with minion aggro.

iTaLenTZ1 votes

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They still don't. I get first blood in probably half my games at level 1. Just go press the attack and spam q. Auto them about 6 times then ignite and you will kill them. The only way they live is if they use flash and you are too low to chase them with minion aggro.

Nice to hear. I will try it if I reinstall League one day.

Z3Sleeper2 votes

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Nice to hear. I will try it if I reinstall League one day.

Why? Did you uninstall it 9 hours ago after that normal game as Nunu?

iTaLenTZ1 votes

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Why? Did you uninstall it 9 hours ago after that normal game as Nunu?

Yes. It has been a while that I am not having fun with League. Over time I have lost many champs I used to enjoy due to failed reworks. Aslo I used to play Dominion or normals with off-meta champs and builds to have some diversity and fun but it just isn't possible any more. Keystones have homogenized gameplay and builds to a point where there is too much damage creep and offmeta stuff doesn't work any more because it can't compete with it. Ranked is boring and stale with righclicking champs and supports running rampant and I hate marksmen. I hardly played during season 7 and I don't think I will be back soon. The upcoming midseason update seems catered towards marksmen and other rightclickers even more with inevitable lategame scaling, more true damage and true hp%damage to a point I feel done with League.

LordGeovanni2 votes

Taric : item 3040 item 3042 item 3508 item 3110 item 3001 item 3111 runes https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-update/8200-8229?build=21102026 Its only gonna suck that your attack speed is slow as hell slowing down the combo if it was previous taric that wouldnt happen Edit: i prefer the first version of Essence Reaver I think patch 4.12 version is the best yes right before it got a price cut. but okay this one isnt too bad at least some other ad champions can use it. (as i wrote this line i thought of Katarina picking it up because its easy after the first kill but the first kill isnt as easy even if its still easy in my opinion)

Galiö1 votes

Seems better on jayce but this seems funny enough

JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE1 votes

How would it be better on Jayce? Coming from a jayce main

Galiö1 votes

You can proc it all the time on r every 30 seconds. You dont need to waste tarics ult just to get the effect off. Plus you can get an attack speed boost as jayce that will lessen your attack speed boosts CD... which you can use to get your attack speed boost back.

JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE1 votes

Ooooo i didnt think about Jayce's W attack speed 2.5 going with that lol. Gonna be fun af

Galiö1 votes

You can literally constantly pound them for 10 seconds every 30 seconds. Lol

JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE1 votes

Eh not constantly, your mana is gonna go away really fast and you cant really engage very close as jayce otherwise you can get out traded fairly easy against tanks/bruisers.

HàrrowR1 votes

I don't have a pbe acc,what are the changes being made to ER exactly?

HàrrowR2 votes

How the fuck would this work on Lucian,i mean he will break this item in half,his Q is on a 3 sec cd with 40% cdr and his passive gives him a bonus basic attack that applies on hit,so you get first item this,second item Black Cleaver,40% cdr,and you spam your Q like its URF mode,literally 1 sec CD

Auz the Ripper1 votes

I believe it refunds 20% of the ability’s current cooldown, so he’ll get at most an extra rotation out of the 8 seconds and it only applies if he starts the fight with his ult which rarely happens.

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