Why are tanks able to do more damage than most champions when not even "slayers" do as much damage nor do "fighters". But you have shits like 
crushing people like yasuo. I had one stun me and basically one hit me? Why is that okay? I want answers, you see, because Yasuo was nerfed for doing shit tons of damage as tank Yasuo, why is tank poppy not being nerfed?
Marshbouy7 votesIf you got one hit by a poppy then you did something very very wrong.
Bultz1 votesIf you got one hit by a poppy then you did something very very wrong.
That is stupid and you should feel bad for such comments.
Marshbouy2 votesHow? Poppy has low damage, if you got one hit by her that's on you.
Bultz1 votesHow? Poppy has low damage, if you got one hit by her that's on you.
Low damage? she hits you and stuns you. Plus she did nearly 90% of my hp with I was stunned. and Yasuo doesn't have escapes without minions.
Marshbouy2 votesShow me the match in which this happened.
Schàdenfreude1 votesREPLAY SYSTEM NOT OUT YET BROTHA
Marshbouy2 votesMatch history.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 voteshe was yasou jungle vs top poppy who went full tank... i already posted his game and builds in the match up
Marshbouy2 votesCan i have a link?
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:02:51.095+0000)
I'd kick your ass any day bud.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesill just play poppy and make you create another thread and cry about how she is broken when you are a yasou main
Ralanr2 votesOh yes, make boasting challenges when someone reveals your match history. That will definitely prove you right.
Bultz1 votesOh yes, make boasting challenges when someone reveals your match history. That will definitely prove you right.
why call up my history other than to insult me?
Ralanr1 votesBeing proven wrong isn't the same as insulting.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesi called your history into play regarding the match up and game you are crying about.
Miror B5 votes[{quoted}](name=DRAGON BROLY,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T01:52:38.641+0000)
Low damage? she hits you and stuns you. Plus she did nearly 90% of my hp with I was stunned. and Yasuo doesn't have escapes without minions.
Poppy doesn't have any minion-less escapes either? Also, poppy does %hp damage from q and typical "tank damage" from iceborn/sunfire. Much of the damage is rarely ever serious, thus if you're "crushed" by one then they usually had at least a 1-2 item advantage.
Bultz1 votesPoppy doesn't have any minion-less escapes either? Also, poppy does %hp damage from q and typical "tank damage" from iceborn/sunfire. Much of the damage is rarely ever serious, thus if you're "crushed" by one then they usually had at least a 1-2 item advantage.
poppy doesn't need the escapes because she can trade safely with tank items, but has huge build in damage. Ummm isn't that why ekko and Yasuo tanks got nerfed? so nerf poppy and all those type of champions because if one is screwed they all should be.
Miror B3 votes[{quoted}](name=DRAGON BROLY,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:01:00.217+0000)
poppy doesn't need the escapes because she can trade safely with tank items, but has huge build in damage. Ummm isn't that why ekko and Yasuo tanks got nerfed? so nerf poppy and all those type of champions because if one is screwed they all should be.
Yasuo and ekko got nerfed because they were known assassins (I count yasuo as an assassin as his kit basically screams it) who were abusing tank items in their kits to make them impossible to deal with. Poppy's a bruiser (similar to the likes of darius/garen) who can do literally nothing vs ranged characters unless obscenely fed. Next time you face a poppy, play literally anything with range and tell me she is OP/broken. Chances are you'll either snowball hard off her, or just die anyways because hey I'm not gonna judge your skill level or anything.
Bultz1 votesYasuo and ekko got nerfed because they were known assassins (I count yasuo as an assassin as his kit basically screams it) who were abusing tank items in their kits to make them impossible to deal with. Poppy's a bruiser (similar to the likes of darius/garen) who can do literally nothing vs ranged characters unless obscenely fed. Next time you face a poppy, play literally anything with range and tell me she is OP/broken. Chances are you'll either snowball hard off her, or just die anyways because hey I'm not gonna judge your skill level or anything.
okay and poppy is a tank who does more damage than either of them. how is that better? nerf her,
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteslast time i played vs poppy she was tank support and i went leona with ignite... i won lane vs her...
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:12:16.426+0000)
last time i played vs poppy she was tank support and i went leona with ignite... i won lane vs her...
maybe cause leona tanks and does shit tons of damage with a stun kit too?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesyasou is nothing but damage builds nothing but damage. i have cc only as leona.. she dont have high damage scaling abilities or a passive she can even use for herself
learn the fukn game
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=00000000000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:17:10.223+0000)
yasou is nothing but damage builds nothing but damage. i have cc only as leona.. she dont have high damage scaling abilities or a passive she can even use for herself
learn the fukn game
Leona does a shit ton of damage and can tank 5 people wtf are you on. On top of that leona can build half ad half tank and she does a shit ton of damage, just like thresh does.
MyNameAintNick1 votesI just played against poppy top as ekko, we were even in lane and she did 900 of my 1400 hp with one combo.
I had a sheen and she had a hexdrinker.
She definitely did 2/3 of my health in one combo.
Maybe not one shot, but close to it.
Marshbouy2 votesthat is a blatant, monstrous, colossal, lie.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesno its possible she does %hp damage
Marshbouy2 votesAssuming she is level 9, and her build was only hexdrinker
90+2(130+196)+70+2(60)+220=1152 buckler, double Q, W, double E, R Add in grasp of the undying and an auto attack and you get probably 1300 pre mitigation damage, so sure it's possible, but that's a good 5-6 seconds. Not a short fight by any definition and poppy blew a lot of abilities while also outplaying ekko by managing to pin him against the wall and abuse ever bit of damage output that she had. It's literally a full combo, and poppy would be left with no abilities by the end of the fight.
TL;DR poppy probably could have done it, but deserved that much damage for managing to get all of it off over an extended period of time, the use of all of her resources, and outplaying ekko.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesso due to her inherent tankyness and damage reduction with her %hp damage and cc she could then out sustain in a extended fight and out trade a squishy
Marshbouy1 votesYeah pretty much. Of course it doesn't help that the guy was playing tank ekko, a build that has been completely gutted at this point. Well, glad we got that sorted out. Have a nice day.
Bultz1 votesI just played against poppy top as ekko, we were even in lane and she did 900 of my 1400 hp with one combo.
I had a sheen and she had a hexdrinker.
She definitely did 2/3 of my health in one combo.
Maybe not one shot, but close to it.
exactly and can you as ekko do anything to her? no because you need items to do damage, while she doesn't and can take your hits without any fear in the trade, but tank ekko and yasuo weren't allowed to, why should anyone else be?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesher abilities scale on ad or ap... not def stats
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=000000000000000100010000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:01:01.628+0000)
her abilities scale on ad or ap... not def stats
and she should be nerfed for build tank trading safely and doing damage at the same time like yasuo and ekko were
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesno cuz she is classified as a tank.... the reason why yasou and ekko tank builds were nerfed is cuz they are fighters/assassins and didnt lose damage by getting tanky... they are ment to be squishy .. she isnt ... she didnt build damage she had an iceborn gauntlet and sunfire cape which makes her tankier you had no items and tried to fight a tank as an unfed under farmed yasou jungler
Bultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=00000000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:05:00.960+0000)
no cuz she is classified as a tank.... the reason why yasou and ekko tank builds were nerfed is cuz they are fighters/assassins and didnt lose damage by getting tanky... they are ment to be squishy .. she isnt ... she didnt build damage she had an iceborn gauntlet and sunfire cape which makes her tankier you had no items and tried to fight a tank as an unfed under farmed yasou jungler
again. she is a fuckign tank. not a fighter. not a slayer. not meant to out damage anyone. nerfs.
Ralanr2 votes[{quoted}](name=DRAGON BROLY,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=000000000000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:05:58.304+0000)
again. she is a fuckign tank. not a fighter. not a slayer. **not meant to out damage anyone.**nerfs.
I see this thrown around all the time. You do realize that Poppy isn't going to do the same level of damage as Yasuo does to a target of equal durability?
Poppy didn't outdamage you. No one needs to outdamage a squishy target to kill them. Glass cannons break easily because they are made of glass.
You also died 7 times and only had two items, none of which gave any durability. Poppy was also Gold 5.
You didn't get outdamaged, you got squashed by a low to medium damage champion because you're squishy as fuck.
Bultz1 votesI see this thrown around all the time. You do realize that Poppy isn't going to do the same level of damage as Yasuo does to a target of equal durability?
Poppy didn't outdamage you. No one needs to outdamage a squishy target to kill them. Glass cannons break easily because they are made of glass.
You also died 7 times and only had two items, none of which gave any durability. Poppy was also Gold 5.
You didn't get outdamaged, you got squashed by a low to medium damage champion because you're squishy as fuck.
Again she is a tank. If riot is nerfing yasuo for build the same thing poppy is and doing the same level of damage, then she should be nerfed too. On top of that she did 70-90% of my hp with her kit with half a build item.
Her rank means nothing to me. I can Play stupid champions who tank too and climb, but I don't want to.
and again she stunned me and did 90% of my hp in damage. She should be nerfed for that same as yasuo was.
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=DRAGON BROLY,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=00000000000000010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:24:31.515+0000)
Again she is a tank. If riot is nerfing yasuo for build the same thing poppy is and doing the same level of damage, then she should be nerfed too. On top of that she did 70-90% of my hp with her kit with half a build item.
Tank Yasuo was nerfed because his tank build removed any weakness in his kit. He's meant to be squishy as a tradeoff for his mobility and damage. But the tank builds made him durable without taking enough of that damage or any of the mobility away.
Poppy is never going to do as much damage as Yasuo. You are not thinking clearly if you honestly believe that. Granted this doesn't mean she wouldn't have enough damage to kill Yasuo, but that's not something new. Tanks can kill people and have done so for a long time. They are not just meat shields, they are fucking tanks that should be feared and respected.
and again she stunned me and did 90% of my hp in damage. She should be nerfed for that same as yasuo was.
Show me the math of her doing 90% of your health. Maybe then I'll believe you, though a lot of the damage is probably because you had no armor beyond base to reduce any of it and she had Thunderlords which is known as a huge damage boosting mastery.
Bultz1 votesTank Yasuo was nerfed because his tank build removed any weakness in his kit. He's meant to be squishy as a tradeoff for his mobility and damage. But the tank builds made him durable without taking enough of that damage or any of the mobility away.
and how does this not apply to poppy?
Poppy is never going to do as much damage as Yasuo. You are not thinking clearly if you honestly believe that. Granted this doesn't mean she wouldn't have enough damage to kill Yasuo, but that's not something new. Tanks can kill people and have done so for a long time. They are not just meat shields, they are fucking tanks that should be feared and respected.
ummm but she is. and this whole thing isn't just about poppy, it's all tanks in general. they are most definitely doing more damage than fighters or slayers. Tanks are not meant to out damage anyone, but you see this %%%%% 
and this mfker 
they along with most tanks will fking crush you.
Show me the math of her doing 90% of your health. Maybe then I'll believe you, though a lot of the damage is probably because you had no armor beyond base to reduce any of it and she had Thunderlords which is known as a huge damage boosting mastery.
Again she stunned me and killed me in that period of me being stunned once. SO i know it isn't her items doing the work, but her broken ass.
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=DRAGON BROLY,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=0000000000000001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:34:40.184+0000)
and how does this not apply to poppy?
Because she isn't mobile or has high damage.
And no, a movement speed increase isn't mobility. A dash or blink is.
ummm but she is. and this whole thing isn't just about poppy, it's all tanks in general. they are most definitely doing more damage than fighters or slayers. Tanks are not meant to out damage anyone, but you see this %%%%%
It's not outdamaging if you aren't that hard to kill in the first place. Against another tank they wouldn't much damage because they have actual resistances and health.
Again she stunned me and killed me in that period of me being stunned once. SO i know it isn't her items doing the work, but her broken ass.
Again, give me the math because that's a lie.
Ralanr2 votesTanks counter assassins/slayers.
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=DRAGON BROLY,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=00000000000000010001000000000000000000000000000000000003,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:55:29.739+0000)
Of course they do....not..... They are not meant to. On top of that tanks are not fighter nor mages nor burst mages nor juggernauts. they are not meant to do much damage, but they counter assassins/slayers, mages counter assassin/slayers, anyone with any for of cc(90% of champions) counter assassins/slayers. but they are not meant to. Not all of them.
So what do tanks counter then by your logic? ADCs? No one?
That ain't how the game works, buddy.
l Dárius l6 votesBultz1 votes[{quoted}](name=noxus roolz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZNyABLJB,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-10-07T02:10:08.910+0000)
- poppy counters yas
- shes not oneshotting anything inless shes full ad
- poppys stun is one of the most well design abilities in the game imo because it rewards being good at positioning for poppy and punishes bad positioning against her. poppy can also duels decently even if she doesn't stun
Yordle Hentai3 votesAs someone who used to play a lot of poppy, she used to be op. However, the nerfs left her in a terrible state. She's slowly recovering with slow buffs right now. She doesen't counter much people except champs with dashes and you played Yasuo, of course you're gonna have a bad time. Literally, all you had to was wait for her w to be down as it does not last long before dashing and you'd be fine. I could understand pre-nerf Poppy one-shotting people as she was broken (rip bae) but Rito nerfed her burst a long time ago. They changed her q to deal more%health dmg and less flat so she could not burst squishies as hard but deal more dmg to tanks. This meant that getting oneshot by one is impossible unless it was AD poppy, You were really low, you are a salty yasuo main, or you were incredibly behind. Additionally, Poppy gets no dmg rewards from building tanky, all her dmg abilities scale with ad except w. The only tank items that give her dmg are sunfire, iceborn, deadman's, and thornmail. These are all items available for everyone! So, she DOES NOT gain damage rewards for building tank. She gains tankyness which allows her to stay alive longer to do more damage, but in a slower pace which disproves her one-shotting some once again. Additionally, if you're complaining about Poppy's base dmg, then you'd have to lower the base damage of all tanks as most tanks, have decent base damage while having better cc than Poppy. The only thing that sets people apart from Poppy was the fact that she was a jack of all trades tank pre-nerfs, but now she's just peel bot. as her DAMAGE and ENGAGE WAS NERFED A WHILE AGO. So, I don't see the point of how post-nerf Poppy could ever hope of one-shotting a yasuo as she is not the champion she once was. If you want Poppy to be nerfed even more, what can a tank with even lower base dmg, a very situational stun, okay-ish cc, and positioning based dmg do?
Ralanr1 votesApparently still be a peel bot with her W and ult.
I miss the AA reset.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesyou just blew my mind....
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
or this basically what i said in less words...
but yea he was yasou jungler with a 
and died to a top lane poppy who is gold rank and he is unranked and she had 
and 
as her build
game was ff @ 20 mins
but awesome explanation
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
l Dárius l1 votesPoppy doesn't get damage from building tank Poppy doesn't counter everyone. Poppy has obvious counters. Poppy doesn't one shot anything inless she is full ad I actually don't know where your getting this idea that Poppy is op. She does less damage than tank Yasuo and tank Ekko ever did, thats why they were nerfed