Lulu Mana utillity is to low for an AP caster

CoolKnightST··4 votes·493 views

Base Mana Regen = 1/2- > 1 Janna Soraka Sona Nami = 9 Zilean Zyra Morgana Thresh Alistar Blitzcrank Annie Braum Leona Karma Lulu Taric = 6 (default)

Scaling Mana Regen = 1/2+ > 1 Zilean Zyra Morgana Thresh Alistar Blitzcrank Annie Braum Leona Karma Lulu Taric = +0.8 Sona Soraka Janna Nami = +0.4

Base Mana 3/16 > 7/16 Janna = 409.52 Nami = 377.24 Karma = 374 Zilean = 360.8 Soraka = 350.8 Taric = 349.08 Morgana Sona = 340.8 Zyra Annie = 334 Braum = 310.6 Leona = 302.2 Lulu = 292.4 Alistar = 278.84 etc...

Base Mana Scaling 11/16 > Janna = +64 Soraka Zilean Morgana = +60 Taric = +56 Lulu = +55 Zyra Annie Karma = +50 Braum Sona = +45 Thresh = +44 Nami = +43 etc...

Results 3 11 7 Lulu

8 10 9 Zyra

10 15 12,5 Morgana

14 10 12 Karma

16 16 16 Janna

15 4 9,5 Nami

13 15 14 Zilean

11 12 11,5 Taric

12 15 13,5 Soraka

10 7 8,5 Sona

8 10 9 Annie

6 7 6,5 Braum

5 3 4 Leona

2 1 1,5 Alistar

Unlike her tanky friends. Lulu is kinda depended on her mana pool but still she scores pretty low in these levels. This will mean her lane bully potentional is almost non existant right now...

5 Comments

Ghiefelstein4 votes

This will mean her lane bully potentional is almost non existant right now...

Thank god Lulu's lane bully potential is gated by mana. She would be extremely oppressive if she didn't have to worry about mana. Long range poke combined with waveclear and strong disengage is not the healthiest combination.

Mana is one of Lulu's weaknesses. I rather see a strength buffed than a meaningful weakness taken away.

CoolKnightST2 votes

Squishy, high cooldown, low base movement speed, high mana costs, ...

What non weaknesses are you talking about (in the support role).

Ghiefelstein2 votes

Some unique strengths of Lulu support:

  • Peeling against assassins (ult, polymorph, reveal)
  • Helps teammates initiate (movespeed boost, ult)
  • Can support any role effectively (helps tanks initiate, bruisers stick to targets, peels for mages and marksman, helps assassins find picks and escape)
  • Can reliably disable a single fed enemy (targeted polymorph, ult knockup, heavy slows)

Yes, those are all mid-late game strengths. And she happens to have better mana scaling than most supports. I think Lulu's true strengths are after the laning phase. So I deal with the mana problems and the low movement speed, because I know I can be way more useful later on than the enemy support.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

Yeah,that is problem.After half a year,i gave Lulu supp a run again.She still seems weaker compared to other utility supports but isnt really UP.Her biggest issue is definatly her mana pol and mana reg,I find myself buying Tear on her just to solve the mana problem,it´s kinda sad...

DJ Siamak1 votes

That's because she's oppressive if she has a lot of mana.

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