Anyone here who can tell me what the fuck the balance team is doing?

TrikzterzArma·Oct 26, 2018·5 votes·1,035 views

Pyke, Irelia, Graves running havoc? Of let's give Irelia 5 less movement speed.

What is this? Is this a joke? Do the balance team know what theyre doing?

14 Comments

KaiokoOct 26, 20185 votes

That 5 MS caused her to dip 2.5% in win rate and drop from a tier 1 champion to a tier 2 on all analysis websites.

You should never underestimate what changing a champion's base stats does to them especially not MS, AD or AS. We've seen that in the past with Kayle, Cait, Janna, Graves just to name a few where they barely tweaked the base stats and it had a huge impact.

Olga RajeckaOct 26, 20181 votes

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That 5 MS caused her to dip 2.5% in win rate and drop from a tier 1 champion to a tier 2 on all analysis websites.

You should never underestimate what changing a champion's base stats does to them especially not MS, AD or AS. We've seen that in the past with Kayle, Cait, Janna, Graves just to name a few where they barely tweaked the base stats and it had a huge impact.

5 is literally nothing, though. It cannot be felt at all and the situations where that 5 MS impacts the result of that situation is so low it's not even worth including it.

KaiokoOct 26, 20182 votes

5 MS can definitely be felt.

It's funny though people say the thing about the 3 AD adjustment they did and yet they played a huge impact.

StrawberrycocoaOct 26, 20183 votes

It's not nothing, losing 5 MS means that it's a little bit easier for Irelia's opponents to escape her and survive a fight if they can get far enough away from bladesurge targets, and a little bit harder to escape a chasing opponent if she can't find a target to jump too.

Olga RajeckaOct 26, 20181 votes

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It's not nothing, losing 5 MS means that it's a little bit easier for Irelia's opponents to escape her and survive a fight if they can get far enough away from bladesurge targets, and a little bit harder to escape a chasing opponent if she can't find a target to jump too.

Irelia's main mobility tool is her Q. She doesn't just run around in teamfight and autoattack. She bursts people using double / triple Q's. Sure, maybe in ganks / lane in some marginal cases it can be felt, but overall, the nerf means nothing.

JackMcSnipeyzOct 26, 20185 votes

Same with Graves - 2.8% WR drop, but silver balance experts on the boards only know how to deal with extremes either the champ gets gutted, or Riot is a joke.

Olga RajeckaOct 26, 20181 votes

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Same with Graves - 2.8% WR drop, but silver balance experts on the boards only know how to deal with extremes either the champ gets gutted, or Riot is a joke.

Base AD is a completely different thing and while it's still very minor, it has a lot more impact than 5 MS on an extremely mobile champion.

JackMcSnipeyzOct 26, 20183 votes

If the stats showed a drop, it's a drop. You cant argue with stats, even small changes can impact a champ, so if it knocked a 2% off her with just -5 MS, thank god they didnt gutt her.

Olga RajeckaOct 27, 20181 votes

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If the stats showed a drop, it's a drop. You cant argue with stats, even small changes can impact a champ, so if it knocked a 2% off her with just -5 MS, thank god they didnt gutt her.

Correlation != Causation. The difference in winrate after the patch doesn't necessarily indicate that the patch caused the winrate to drop. No one in the League scene (Pros, analysts) thinks that this nerf matters.

In addition, I am 99% sure that if you travel the Summoners Rift from one Nexus to the other, the 5 MS difference would net you less than a second of time. That's how miniscule 5 MS is.