Probably i have figured out the Mordekaiser rework

Decrit··4 votes·580 views

Even tought there are many things i disagree with CTD, while thinking about his work i started more to look at the meaning of his changes, rather the changes itself. One of the first things he said was that he wanted Morde to be a good substitute for a ADCin botlane... but the things he exposed later suggested more about him, like he talked about jungle and solo lanes even tought the proposed changed might not reflect that. And i tought and tpught, and came to a conclusion.

Let' s forgive a moment the actual proposed kit and let' s focus on the intent: Riot wanted a Mordekaiser rework, one that is somewhat needed since the champion hardly sticks to his current fantasy ( that started jumping from being a melee storm of destruction to a tankmage ). After all the information gathering resulted some stuff: he needed to be strong melee, to be durable and to scale in fight duration while becoming a true threat, but at the same time he should not have CCs ( else he looked like many other tanks ) or mobility skills ( else he looked like any other engager/diver), and gave him the spot of Juggernaut: a slow moving hulk of death. But how can something like that work, if he can' t reach his target? He has ranged capabilities, but they hardly suffice. So, CT explained that he needed the help of his team in order to fully succeed on his intent, something that made many people rage for obvious reasons, since their beloved champion ( and mine too ) was about to be changed drastically.

But then again, think about it: what does mean if he gets mobility, gap close and stuff like that? it makes him more indipendant, alright, but it makes him far, far more similiar to many other champions. This game has far too many similiar champions, and some degree of characterization is needed under reasonable circumastances, and immobile fighter fits him well.

But let' s see the game as whole, for a moment. This is a team game - you give something, you need something. An example of this are ranged carries, that need some kind of care throught the game. Now let' s look at supports: why they exist? They do because they cover up weakness of the player they are supporting, in the case of carries providing early game power, engagement protection and aggression and gank safety.

But why they have to be always carries? It' s stale to have the supports always adc centric, why not sending them to support somebody else with a glaring weakness they can cover up? and i don' t talk about morde, but in general. At this point it is natural that a champion like Mordekaiser gets a support, if worth, or that he has enhanced ganking power and a safer farming so he can play around his weaknesses and focus on crushing allied help. And this generates new strategies, new distribution, new player interactions, new compositions...

What CT did is not cool. Is something genious, because it' s an important step on evolving the whole game, and CT took the opportunity and did something reasonable and avant-garde, even tought in my opinion is still half-baked in execution.

But the idea, the progress is there and should be encouraged to come out fully fleshed and formed.

Sorry if this makes not much sense in some parts, it' s hard to me express some things since I am foreign, and thanks for reading.

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The Fast3 votes

You think like I do. It's a shame it had to be Morde, but the fact that they want to finally replace a carry, and place some other class, someone that also wants to be babied early game, and give them the tools to survive and scale, means that riot is widening the area of viable champions.

supermuffin283 votes

copy/paste of my comment from another thread with a couple minor edits (no one acted like they wanted to have a conversation about it, so i'll try again here (Not an arguement, not a debate, a conversation. Yes, it's rare now a days, i know))

(Context - the question was: Do you think morde's W should be changed and why?)

I could probably go on for hours. So, just a quick post. Simply, no, because people aren't even giving it an actual try. Just complaining to complain. 2nd.) Morde doesn't HAVE to go bot. Neither does the support... or the ADC for that matter.

I truly enjoy the amount of experimentation CertainlyT has given to the community with his own "experiment". People QQ all day because they dont like the change, but aren't actually putting any EFFORT into making it work. They're just stuck in a rut (so to speak) META META META, I built "x" on him before the rework so i HAVE to build that now.

It's just sad the general population cant have a more open mind and think for themselves. Props to certainlyT for his creativity and game altering changes.

to top it off, worst case scenario, they change him. QQ'ing for ages before it's implemented isn't going to change much if anything before proper trial/error - because that's how experiments and learning work.

Decrit1 votes

That 's... a twisted reply. I dunno how was the global context there but you jumped to w toughts to morde position to global balance :P

However i too think that stuff should be more open - buy must be reasonabily, and not because a w passive says that you gain more xp shared.

supermuffin282 votes

Depending on your definition of global balance. I mean personally, I feel bad for the morde players that FEEL they're forced to bot lane. However, who's to say that his solo lane trashed. Weaker...? Maybe, no one has even had a real opportunity to experiment with it. I've came up with several ideas that may or may not work.

The point I was trying to make is that the general community is **spewing ** "morde HAS to go bot lane". That's not entirely true. CertainlyT has given us an opportunity. The opportunity to experiment with a meta breaking champion.

Morde may be unable to cast w on anything other than an "allied champion" but who's to say that HAS to be a support. For all we know he has no problems sustaining his shield without the use of w all the time. Does it help, well yea i'm sure it does. However there's opportunity to take him mid lane, with duo partner in the jungle. Jungler runs out of camps to farm for a second but doesn't want to go back: Hey, i'm morde, come soak up some xp because it's not going to affect me at all, i'll shield you, we can shove tower and both recover some hp. win win win.

That's just one simple little example. Help a jungler who fell behind catch up xp wise, help them push to 6 really quick for gank bot lane. I have several other ideas that i'm willing to try out.

CT has said so himself, that morde is more or less going live with this kit and he's leaving it up to the community to see if they CAN make it work. WORST case scenario, they change him. No harm no foul.

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