How Is The Global Nerf To Damage Going To Affect You?

Mira Arya Enthe··32 votes·2,927 views

With Damage Being Nerfed Soon My DPS Champions Can Be Viable Again! ;~;

Shyvana Tank/Juggernaut shrekker, won't die before getting in range. Ashe Tank shredder/kiting machine extraordinaire. Leona Will be able to protect my ADC yay! Riven Won't die when somebody looks at me funny with my shield down. Teemo Somewhat usable! No getting lvl 1 towerdove. Malzahar Still a shitty rework.

How are your favorite champions being affected by this?

84 Comments

Keevalroy10 votes

How Is The Global Nerf To Damage Going To Affect You?

It's one step closer for me coming back to League after a year long hiatus. It's not much, but it's more incentive than anything they've done since Juggernauts (pushing away.)

I mean, if they keep up on the damage nerfs, admit keystones were a failure, finally address mobility creep and actually do something about it, and we see 10 bans solidified in the client once it's finished, I may need to step back onto the Rift.

The last time I was hopeful for Riot's direction, I got burned when they decided the spectator event was priority number one on their list of concerns, but I can't help but hope they're now realizing what a god-awful mess they've made and want to clean it up.

Eager to see what's next.

Slythion6 votes

I can finally play my top lane bruisers again...thank god

I've legit just been playing adc (my worst role) and support Blitz because I hate myself + this season with all it's damage

NineTailedMystic6 votes

Can I still burst squishies? Yes? Great, I can still do my job. No? Ripperoni.

edit: lul downvotes

Mira Arya Enthe8 votes

Popular champions who are fun to play are universally hated by everyone but their players. Ahri falls under that category. The thing that separates her from say, Riven, is that Riven mains are more likely to be toxic. Other than that she falls under the fun-to-play mobile damage dealer classification. People only want iron walls slapping one another with wet noodles.

NineTailedMystic7 votes

idk where the recent Ahri hate came from. Only been this bad this past month or two.

Edge of Daybreak7 votes

It spikes every now and then but ahri hate is almost always relevant since she is pretty much always strong. I could go say ahri is stronger than a lot of champions who get nerfed and I'm right. Doesn't matter though because she isn't really as bs as some other things.

SaltyKracka14 votes

It's always annoying to see a character with super outsized win/playrates for an extended period of time. Remember Lux, and how it took literal years of outcry for her to see some reasonable nerfs?

NineTailedMystic4 votes

She's been like this since 5.3. Legitimately two seasons. Lux outcry only really became relevant in S6 to where she was overly strong with TLD, and also became harder to kill due to some overarching changes to her W.

SaltyKracka13 votes

Lux outcry was relevant for like eight months straight. S6 had little to do with how legitimately busted she was.

Spârky4 votes

My only problem with ahri is that she is to forgiving. People say just dodge the charm. But if she ults in and misses her charm you dont get to punish her for that unless you are someone like ryze with a point and click cc because she will just ult away and even after her two ults if you catch up to her she still has flash.. That's my only problem with her.

Best Kog NA4 votes

KogMaw might get his identity back <3

EbonyBladeJ884 votes

Perhaps I'll be able to actually do well in toplane again because of how many Ranged champs I've been seeing top lately.

Edge of Daybreak4 votes

With damage being nerfed I have to relearn the damage I can put out early game with certain characters again. Gonna be annoying for a while because it messes with my muscle memory.

bbQsauçe4 votes

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Tychusfindlay9193 votes

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Zed Double edged/Bounty hunter nerfed, Merciless nerfed, Precision nerfed, item 3142 nerfed, item 3071 build path nerfed.

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Fuck assassins building cleaver, that's as dumb as ADCs picking up steraks (and steraks got raped because of it).

Ahristocats4 votes

Jhin straight up nerfed Darius never cared about all those bonus damages

overall game=more fun because teamfights are longer

if the difference is highly noticeable won't play dota2 for a while to enjoy league

DunkinNoobs4 votes

Most of you won't even notice the difference once it goes live.

The Scout Girl3 votes

did somebody say that burst was going down ?

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i dont think you should start celebrating yet

50000000000000002 votes

Damage in general is going down. Same with DPS.

Mira Arya Enthe9 votes

Lower damage means damage that happens slower has more value. For example, if tanks live longer and ADCs don't die in 2 hits, ADCs gain value because their consistent damage is now needed to kill things. Same for Captain Teemo here. Teemo thrives in an environment where he doesn't get towerdove at level 1 and die instantly. He needs time to scale up from safety and deal DPS. This is why he is more viable in a tank meta than in a burst meta.

PunnedIt1 votes

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did somebody say that burst was going down ?

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i dont think you should start celebrating yet

Given how Teemo can build with versatility, combined with the fact that Teemo's enemies can use burst damage to a much greater degree than he can, I'm pretty sure that Teemo mains will benefit from a nerf to burst damage.

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The Scout Girl1 votes

That was... the point.

Penns2 votes

Idk, I agreed that some champs/classes had too much dmg from masteries and stuff, but I dont like how I lose like ~5-7% of my damage on an assassin that already isnt that good. I hope there are at least finally gonna be some direct changes to Fizz sooon feelsbadman

Omen4613 votes

uhg, please don't go asking for Fizz, easy killing and in good hands, impossible to even hit.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Did someone say DPS champs will be good again?

Azir Soon, my Emperor, soon.

Garen DEMACIA!!!! Kiting won't hurt as badly anymore.

JarvanIV DEMACIA!!!!

Brand I have no words, only a laugh.

Viktor Maybe I can finally lane against Leblanc without having nightmares. On the other hand I won't be able to halve health bars in lane anymore. Maybe it's for the better...

Leona She can finally do her job again.

Taric His glorious body can grace the rift even more.

NineTailedMystic3 votes

What about this is good for Brand or Viktor? They'll 100-0 burst squishies still anyways.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

It was more of a relief against getting busted myself before I could get damage out.

Particularly Brand, as his damage is delayed more than most other mages.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

Eh, at worst, I notice Brand usually goes kill for kill in lane at 6. Brand update was a mistake. 12+% maxhp that scales why. R prioritizing 3 passive stacks why. R innate slow why. R QoL changes why.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Also, please note in my example that I play Midlane Brand, not Support Brand.

Support is the one role I refuse to play him in.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

As was I, unfortunately.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Say what you will, but his rework was a sucess imo.

He's unique, rewards skill in hitting all three spells, and provides the fantasies of being a fire elemental that blows up everything.

NineTailedMystic2 votes

The things I listed just baffle me. He's fine for the most part, but the 12% scaling Max HP is there for no reason on top of his old %burn. The R prioritization is dumb as shit, I killed a Brand near his tower at 6 dodging all of his spells (except E) but he puts his R on me as minions come and it bounces between me and the minions all 4 times up to my own tower, procs his passive, and I almost die from 90% HP. I don't know why his R has an innate slow attached to it. And then the R changes so it retargets when its current target is no longer valid by Zhonya's, untargetability, or death.

He was fine before, but he got unnecessary buffs like Vel Koz did just so he'd see more play.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well I wouldn't say unnecessary.

These were real QoL changes for Brand so he'd be more viable. I imagine you haven't played Brand often enough to notice he had a lot of issues.

The max HP damage is so solidify him as the anti Tank mage.

If you notice his ratios are poor to make up for this.

All of his burst is tied up in his passive, and he struggles against mobile targets he can't hit.

Not to mention the range onhis E is so low he puts himself in danger to use it.

The took the RNG from his ult so he could be more reliable.

Stars Shaper2 votes

AurelionSol Getting hit once won't doom my laning until I recall.

Jeddy0172 votes

Let's see: These damage nerfs will lower the damage of me & my team - negative Lower the damage of the enemy team - positive

That's just balance out to neutral. Less free damages for everyone, even tanks who get the targetted masteries & rides on base stats (& maybe runes too) alone. To make up for this lost of damage, people will need to buy damages. This will affect the damage "supports" for have less access to gold. It won't push them out (unfortunately) but this will drop their power a bit (thank fucking god).

Also, fuck damages "supports".

DrCyanide2 votes

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I will survive just fine without it.

JustARivenMain2 votes

Praising anti-damage creep after this- hopefully won't get RKO'd by Jayce level 5 with a Serrated Dirk (Prolly will) and Quinn hopefully won't just 3 shot me before I can get a hit in x-x.

(Altho Lethality becoming really good again, BC if only used in few situations on Riven vs Tanks so imean, I'm prolly getting squishier aswell now.)

Melledoneus2 votes

Shen Finally I can complete my ult channel before my ally dies.

NiceTryVi1 votes

Riven Won't die when somebody looks at me funny with my shield down.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, how bad are you at playing riven that you legitimately think this, holy shit. Riven has so much mobility with ridiculously low cooldowns. You cannot possibly seriously think this.

JustARivenMain3 votes

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, how bad are you at playing riven that you legitimately think this, holy shit. Riven has so much mobility with ridiculously low cooldowns. You cannot possibly seriously think this.

With Riven, you have to think of her as a melee combo adc, she has mobility- but that's also her damage, if her shield is down, she's as vulnerable as any marksmen, she has low base armor and scaling so unless you have GA already then you basically get popped by anyone with any type of damage.

NiceTryVi1 votes

Except that with a standard Riven build, you have CC every 4 seconds, and Valor is a fair dash with a stupid large shield. Broken Wings can take you very far, and if you're worried about getting popped w/o your shield, you are definitely not using it for damage at that point, you are running away. I always laugh when Riven mains want their precious broken champ buffed, when they fail to realize that she has the lowest CD and some of the highest damage of any manaless champion. In addition, she uses a bug that Riot refuses to fix. If they fixed animation cancelling, then yeah, she could use a buff. But as long as Riven abuses a bug while already having stupid low CDs, you have no leg to stand on.

JustARivenMain1 votes

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Except that with a standard Riven build, you have CC every 4 seconds, and Valor is a fair dash with a stupid large shield. Broken Wings can take you very far, and if you're worried about getting popped w/o your shield, you are definitely not using it for damage at that point, you are running away. I always laugh when Riven mains want their precious broken champ buffed, when they fail to realize that she has the lowest CD and some of the highest damage of any manaless champion. In addition, she uses a bug that Riot refuses to fix. If they fixed animation cancelling, then yeah, she could use a buff. But as long as Riven abuses a bug while already having stupid low CDs, you have no leg to stand on.

Never asked or will ask for her to get buffed, she's in a fair spot right now, if you learn to play against her or play her a little you can find who and what items counter her. o-o

NiceTryVi1 votes

Except OP bitching about her not being viable...

JustARivenMain1 votes

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Except OP bitching about her not being viable...

Well i mean the Op says "Riven Won't die when somebody looks at me funny with my shield down." which is completely true right now, the build for Riven with the Lethality buffs is full Lethality, maybe a Cleaver, so it's more than likely there's a lethality Jayce/Quinn or even Renekton on the enemy team that will blow you up if you use your shield, and this can happen at level 5 even. :p

She's viable and the OP said nothing about her not being Viable, just that it's hard to do good right now.

NiceTryVi1 votes

Lol are you serious? Riven still has her stupid survivability, her shield is based off AD. I haven't seen a Renekton in a very long time, and Ray even showed how shitty Ren is right now in the LCS the other day. And Jayce and Quinn will blow up anybody, not just Riven.

Spice POWAH1 votes

https://i.redd.it/c6w9paww6mwx.png I'd say i'm doing well

Tusutaki1 votes

Literally nothing. Nothing will change as some of the masteries in Resolve is getting nerfed too.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Living slightly longer, but still dying too fast, I'd wager.

Unironic SJW1 votes

MissFortune well my ult is still going to shred your team; i just get to be a bit tankier on top of it. item 3814 item 3071 item 3156 item 3046 item 3006 item 3026

throw on some dank shields and heals from the support for good measure item 3107 item 3504 item 3222

AlienPrimate1 votes

I am going to love it for the short time before Galio is reworked. I don't use any of the damage masteries on him so his damage won't change at all in my hands.

If anyone is wondering, I use 0-18-12 on him with windspeakers blessing for the healing boost on his w.

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