I feel unit collision doesn't get enough discussion

Lunar Lunacy·8/11/2018, 4:49:39 AM·102 votes·16,558 views

I'm not sure exactly at what point it started to feel different, but it used to feel a lot smoother to me, if I clicked to move around a minion wave my champion used to be more decisive with pathing. Now I regularly end up watching my champion struggle with glitchy looking movements just trying to walk around a couple minions.... One time I ulted into a minion wave as Diana and I was stuck being displaced in and out of minions for like 4-5 seconds while the enemy champ was attacking me. In one game yesterday I was bonding with the enemy mid laner over how terrible it feels to move around or through minions, it's risky because if you're in a fight, you could just get stuck or not move the way you want to. Honestly just want to play Fizz so I don't have to deal with it

64 Comments

Binding Eclipse8/11/2018, 5:03:43 AM38 votes

Got stuck under the enemy turret in a clot of solely my own minions, had to flash to save myself when my Sunfire nicked the opposing laner. Yeah, wish they'd take a look at this tbh.

Kumiho Ahri8/11/2018, 3:30:07 PM16 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lOipp_MkAM

I just leave this one here.

Selec8/11/2018, 1:50:34 PM15 votes

I'm kind of veteran player and looking back I feel like the unit collision has been getting worse with the years.

Khristophoros8/11/2018, 5:30:28 AM15 votes

delete minion collision problem solved

edit: not for skillshots obviously. jesus christ people.

CapeOfSuns8/11/2018, 11:24:24 AM5 votes

I feel like champions should be the biggest badasses in league and they should be able to just push minions out of the way. Let's say minions in combat to prevent some weird abuse cases.

Sihari8/11/2018, 8:50:25 AM4 votes

Ah yes... Some times its just dumb... I hate it when I want to cross a wave that goes to lane and these little creatures are way stronger than me and prevent me from crossing their path... Oh and I also got trapped between my own plants and a wall while playing Zyra not to long ago... Things like that should not happen imo. >.>

VermillionWolf8/11/2018, 4:01:29 PM3 votes

Dunno how many times ive eaten a skillshot at toplane cause I cant sidestep due to the fat ass siege minion and ranged casters

Rıots Bad Client8/12/2018, 8:57:19 AM2 votes

The issue is, every time we ask for touch-ups on Unit Collision they go in and make it worse than it is.

Ulquiorra01238/11/2018, 1:37:45 PM2 votes

When you get stuck on a single minion and you die xD I love this feature, its so fantastically competitive xD

Ichi Exorz8/11/2018, 1:33:38 PM2 votes

Yeah I think they changed this a while ago. I hate it tbh. It's really annoying.

OldDirtay8/11/2018, 8:31:15 PM2 votes

minions got way worse when they did the minion update to stop people from freezing the first wave so easy by walking into the bush

now the minions have seemed to redirect their aggro to try to make the waves semi equal (they didnt always used to do this and instead when by the chain of command ie, champ got hit, tower got hit etc etc)

but now since all the redirecting going on, they constantly want to move around to try and make it more equal....

that im 100% on and it happened withtin the last 1-2years, but im not sure whats up with the hitboxes and when those got changed...

even today i feel like i can move right between 2 minions tight packed every once in a great while but 99/100 there will be a 1 foot gap and my guy is like nah, better run around the whole pack while eating autos to get that minion a foot ahead of you (sorry but your minions foot isnt visible but its in the way!)

MOLTinaTOR8/11/2018, 12:51:13 PM2 votes

Oh yeah, I'm sick of my champions having seizures whenever I walk through minions :(

Teridax688/13/2018, 12:01:46 AM2 votes

Unit collision does get discussed, it's just that the discussion produces no change in League. The game is held together by some pretty bad tech, and unit collision/bad pathing is but one of the symptoms. Sooner than fix this, Riot so far has preferred to make excuses, such as the notion that buggy collision was being used as a balancing mechanic for immobile champions in lane, or even as a control against ranged champions there, which is bullshit. I'm definitely with you there that unit collision needs to change (if nothing else, I think it should apply exclusively to enemy champions and epic monsters), but it's just not something the developers have been wanting to touch in any significant manner, particularly since their attempts at doing so in the past took a vast amount of time and only made things worse.

Sir Krazy Frog8/11/2018, 2:54:00 PM2 votes

The number of kills I've missed because of the little runts having 2 brain cells is absurd.

Lunar Lunacy8/17/2018, 12:20:07 AM1 votes

Well we've just about reached 100 upvotes, is this worthy of your attention yet Riot?

Verxint8/12/2018, 12:50:35 AM1 votes

My favorite is when you click one time and let go and the champion still can't figure out how to path somewhere.

DragonMastaWolfy8/12/2018, 1:36:18 AM1 votes

The other day I was trying to escape with low health, but the minion pathing moved me into the other team instead of away. The system actually forced me to int.

Please End Mee8/12/2018, 3:06:33 AM1 votes

This is why I play Janna, she's doesn't have this problem.

[sg-lulu]

Dr Dog8/12/2018, 3:13:10 AM1 votes

it sued to be fine, just recently its gotten much bigger as a problem and i have no idea why, i even get stuck on teammates when im walking a shit ton where as that NEVER used to happen

tempname1305838/12/2018, 7:02:50 AM1 votes

i dont know why devs have trouble with this. shooters, mobas, etc. allied unit colllision is cancer. it lets idiot teamates and trolls mess up games in shooters, in league it gets you killed constantly. i feel like i have to plan around my minions to prevent them from getting me killed. chasing people as a melee champ is almost impossible if you have to run through a minion wave, especially if they are some of the ~~cancerous~~ new champs and reworks.

Astorine8/12/2018, 9:18:38 AM1 votes

Removing it would cause problems (collision) but right now it needs to be fixed and toned down, if you are sieging a tower with a big minion wave then an enemy champ comes, you will probs die to them as you struggle in your own pit of minion misery.

Emerald Fang8/12/2018, 9:41:45 AM1 votes

Buy item 3046 obviously, IDK why you're complaining when this item exists /s

BLIGHTBRINGER8/12/2018, 1:08:51 PM1 votes

What if Magical Footwear (the Inspiration Tree Rune) allowed this...

PASSIVE: At 10 minutes (-30 seconds per Takedown), you gain Slightly Magical Boots for Free. Slightly Magical Boots are identical and can be upgraded as if Boots of Speed.

Additionally, Slightly Magical Boots grant a unique passive.

UNIQUE PASSIVE: Allows to pass through non-champion units and gain +5 bonus Movement Speed when passing through a unit for 0.75 seconds (non stackable but refreshable).

Daunt8/12/2018, 2:29:17 PM1 votes

As well as hitboxes. I think its time Riot finally assesses unit collision and hitboxes since almost every other systematic thingy was reworked such as Runes for example.

Wizard Blaze8/12/2018, 2:35:39 PM1 votes

Unit collision is there only to cockblock your life and prevent you from living when being chased to death in your lane.