Whats with the placebo buff for shyvana?

FOR JUSTICE·Jan 11, 2019·4 votes·3,283 views

has anyone ever actually thought that she needs to take dragons faster? if anything, i think she needs a new passive. 5 bonus for each defensive stat is kinda sub par, and because its reliant on drakes, at least 1 of her lanes has to be winning, therefore making her much too reliant on her team winning their lane pre-6, because she has terrible ganking before then due to little CC. plus, any enemies with a brain will ward it to try and contest you, because they flat out expect you to take it ASAP.

and being that ones that level 2 cheese are in the meta, whats stopping them from invading her in response, or at the very least snowballing an enemy lane before she can even respond?

8 Comments

Jon MoxleyJan 11, 20193 votes

You seem new, let me explain how Riot's logic works for you: when they have to NERF her, they'll hit her on her strongest points, like Q double hit damage or E's % damage. Because we all know how Shyvana was this cancer champ who needed to be nerf (?) right? :) BUT, there's a but, when Riot decides to buff Shyvana, will they giver her an efficient buff? Nop! They'll buff the damage she does to dragons (not even once in 2 years of me maining Shyv have i ever thought "oh man i wish i'd do more damage to this drake!") and the nicest buff ever they gave her: raise her ap ratio on her E :) why that? Because when u'll be in ur promo with 1 win and 1 loss on ur third game u'll find the guy with the special brain who thought "Oh BuT RiTo BuFfEd AP ShYv.. Me PlAy Ap ShYv xd xd xd" so that u'll have this nice useless piece of junk in the jungle who's 0/18 because the only utility he'll bring to ur team is press R, E (missing it) and explode in 2 aa's. Because THOSE are the buffs Shyvana needs :)

Salvor HardınJan 11, 20191 votes

Volibear AP ratio buff on R thinks the same.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Jon MoxleyJan 11, 20191 votes

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AP ratio buff on R thinks the same.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Yeah. Exactly. Imagine being a Volibear main, waiting for months and months for him to be buffed and then u have this stupid useless placebo buff.

Salvor HardınJan 11, 20192 votes

Tank Gragas was one of my mains, and then they nerf him to 42% winrate, almost a entire season. You know how they fixed it? They Buff AP ratios! OF COURSE!!!

zZ KanKuro ZzJan 12, 20191 votes

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Tank was one of my mains, and then they nerf him to 42% winrate, almost a entire season. You know how they fixed it? They Buff AP ratios! OF COURSE!!!

that sucks however I see some gragas doing these build item 3025 item 3020 item 3001 item 3157 I think its the closest to semi decent that tank gragas has now.

AlzonJan 11, 20191 votes

If the champion is common in pro play (or wanted by Riot to be so), all of their buffs will be directly to their primary combat ability, and their nerfs will be to the most useless bit of utility they possess. Meanwhile, the reverse is true for champions who don’t fit the pro-play criteria, and reversed again for CC tanks everywhere (more damage, less utility).

Aloe PlantJan 11, 20191 votes

words of truth...especially the promo part lmao

ProfirixJan 11, 20192 votes

If you read the gameplay thoughts for Jan 11, Meddler specifically said they are planning on nerfing jungle XP to make junglers less relevant. Guess what? Shyvana needs to use jungle XP to get ahead in order to do what she was designed to do: steam roll. Because other junglers are simply better, and Riot wants to nerf jungle XP across the board, Shyvana is going to get especially screwed by these changes. Any superficial 'buff' they give her will not make up for how bad she actually is and will be even worse in a patch or two without any more changes.