exahust shouldn't be the best offensive defensive combination

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Where is this Exhaust circlejerk coming from?? The spell has been the same for years and has a lengthy cooldown, yet all of a sudden it's a problem? It's official, the Boards have run out of things to complain about.

As it turns out if you change one aspect of league it can affect another one. That's like saying lee sin suddenly becoming busted makes no sense because he was not changed. Why do people support this kind of logic.

Because Assassins just got a classwide nerf so exhaust staying as broken as it is is just an insult to injury.

press their abilities?

Idk what you're talking about.

Old wasn't affected by period. She went in, and the target she wanted dead, was already dead by the time you realized Kat jumped in. There was no time to or . Then she would ult, if you exhausted her, she could just ward jump out instantly. Bonus points if it was over a thick wall. Your job was done.

Now, the 1.5 seconds delay on daggers combined with her ult being a channel makes her pretty easy to exhaust. I have 600k mastery points on her, and I've never hated until the rework.

As Kat, an enemy team with means you're useless. Unless you're just disgustingly fed, even then though lol. I often find myself making tank if I need to live longer than 2.5 seconds.

half the time I don't even make this for enemy abilites, that shit is for exhaust lmao.

I cringe everytime I exhaust an enemy Kat or any assassin really (or any champion in the game), its actually such bull lol

I was playing Ranked 3s for some reason, and litterally the matchups bot lane for me were determined by whether or not they took exhaust lmao.

Why downvote? He is right, flash is the best summoner spell when it comes to offence and defence. There is a reason that almost everyone is running this summoner spell.

When you are exhausted irl, you are literally too tired to defend yourself. I think it fits just fine. Exhaust shouldn't be touched until this insane damage creep is addressed first.

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or you know, instead of assassins having a 100% to instant dead combo that they can pull off on even tanky supports every 30-60 seconds and exhaust is on what a 2-3 minute cool down? how about we leave some room for counter play. if they exhausted you that means they countered you, they saw you coming and actually did something about it. but please keep blaming supports for you not getting a kill.

I'm sorry not everyone is a stationary target dummy for you.

The new assassins that are being punished by it are the ones that got nerfed so their combo takes a guaranteed 3-4 seconds now. That's far from instant considering current league of legends. Have you tried bursting anyone building tank post rework? It's basically impossible unless you are several levels ahead and fed. Well unless your tank is say caityln.

The problem of your 30-60 second claim is that no one is actually doing anything like that in that low of a time frame. Most fights are so far apart that exhaust is off cooldown before you actually engage again. Counterplay isnt even close to what exhaust is. You didnt actually outplay them you just hit a button. Riot literally nerfed cleanse and Qss for this exact reason.

People dont have to see you coming to exhaust people just wait until you actually do something.

exhaust gives you armor and magic pen.

A good defense is also a good offence ;p

They can't just jump on you if the moment they do, they'll just exhausted and rektd