Screw Hunter's Machete

Talamare·Nov 20, 2014·5 votes·860 views

Machete + 2 Pots? dafaq

Screw it, going back to Cloth + 5

17 Comments

LafouboyNov 20, 20141 votes

Whatever you say scrub. The new jung items are OP and give you an edge against your opponents, but feel free not to abuse 'em. I am sure your jungling experience will be quite grand with that cloth + 5.

TalamareNov 20, 20142 votes

Whatever you say scrub. The new jung items are OP and give you an edge against your opponents, but feel free not to abuse 'em. I am sure your jungling experience will be quite grand with that cloth + 5.

The upgrades are strong, yea

Machete is complete shit at the moment

Going Cloth+5 > 750g > Smite upgrade

LafouboyNov 20, 20141 votes

All I gotta say is, good luck with that. Maybe you will reinvent the meta, I mean, you are the type of innovative mind that deserves Challenger after all. It is always just your teammates that drag you down. :^)

OnegarionNov 20, 20142 votes

I haven't played much in the new jungle, but after seeing the items, streams, etc I think this ideology that the OP has is that they think the jungle is the same. They don't realize that raptors =/= wraiths. While they took their place they are much stronger than the wraiths were. Each camp is completely different in terms of overall stats and the path needed. Most players I bet try to take the same paths they took before.

TalamareNov 20, 20141 votes

I haven't played much in the new jungle, but after seeing the items, streams, etc I think this ideology that the OP has is that they think the jungle is the same. They don't realize that raptors =/= wraiths. While they took their place they are much stronger than the wraiths were. Each camp is completely different in terms of overall stats and the path needed. Most players I bet try to take the same paths they took before.

Indeed, something I learned in my 2nd attempt tho The giant frogs buff is a GOD SEND to clearing, does insane amounts of damage I'm probably going to start it over blue tbh

OnegarionNov 20, 20142 votes

I've heard its usually best to get gromp for the poison or the Krugs for the stun to help early clears and to make sure you come out with a lot of health. Usually its a leash at the buff and then go get either gromp or krugs (whichever one is by the other buff you want) to make it easier to take the next buff. Then take the other when you go for a full jungle clear to help out, but ofc this is way to much for simple player to do you must be a PRO! (/sarasm)

TalamareNov 20, 20141 votes

All I gotta say is, good luck with that. Maybe you will reinvent the meta, I mean, you are the type of innovative mind that deserves Challenger after all. It is always just your teammates that drag you down. :^)

Knowing math and having asian reaction times are 2 different things

The MormonatorNov 21, 20141 votes

Also, you can basically buy the upgrade after two camps.

Phoenix Kotori Nov 20, 20141 votes

honestly thinking about item 1036 3 pot on some champions with AD scalings, the base for item 1039 is so fucking bad now.

The MormonatorNov 20, 20141 votes

Try champions with sustain. Warwick, Irelia, etc. East peasy.

TalamareNov 20, 20141 votes

Try champions with sustain. Warwick, Irelia, etc. East peasy.

Yea, tried WW... massive derps to play

The MormonatorNov 21, 20141 votes

Hmm? Whatcha mean?

SmokingPuffinNov 20, 20141 votes

Try it.

If it works, let us know.

It's charmingly old school.

TalamareNov 20, 20141 votes

Try it.

If it works, let us know.

It's charmingly old school.

Its pretty effective, you will likely outlevel your enemy jungler because of time effeciency

For example, if you clear a couple of camps then B with 750. During the time you are buying your camps are respawning~

While someone who went Machete can only clear maybe 2~3 camps before needing to B

I will say tho, some champs who have good sustain and clear speed don't really need it since they can clear camps roughly just as effective and fast enough that they don't need the extra health from the extra pots. So I would say its a viable choice on some champions, not really needed on others.

RebonackNov 21, 20141 votes

I could see this being viable on a lotta tank junglers who aren't interested in AP.

Because the Juggernaut enchant is really bad.

SaevumNov 22, 20141 votes

Sejuani has a very bad early game, and with this new rework on the jungle (stronger camps) she really lacks the power to clear efficiently and suffers heavy HP loss. Machete and 2 pots are not enough. Not even with Big Frog Buff.

Went Ranger's Trailbrazer, but, still, lacking clear power. Good ol' Quill coat (Spirit of the Ancient golem) was better.

Am i missing something?

SalidfingersNov 22, 20141 votes

He is right it really doesn't make a diffrence.

I have to go cloth + 5 to sustain jungle quickly on some junglers and then get enough gold for 2nd teir of the jungle item after a full jungle clear for a level 4 dragon. Now ill admit i wont have to go cloth on some other junglers, but in the end i still need cloth armor to solo dragon at level 4