Zed has 44% win rate
yea boys, just pick assassins to kill adc!
it's not like they have PD, DD, or anything
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Penns20 votesSwain has 55% win rate
Yea boys, Swain is dead because of 
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KONO RUBICK DA12 votesSwain has 55% win rate
Yea boys, Swain is dead because of
i can assure you that nobody is building this against swain, i did 3 game against him and my adc refused to build it, people are just don't want changes, but you will see in some month they will learn and swain's win rate will drop
fukimissHarambe1 votesi can assure you that nobody is building this against swain, i did 3 game against him and my adc refused to build it, people are just don't want changes, but you will see in some month they will learn and swain's win rate will drop
A sample size of three literally means nothing. On my alt I have played a few games against swain.. one of them we had a full ad comp and our entire team had the item.
CoolKnightST18 votesYou forgot the buffed 
, stacking MR while removing zed ult
KONO RUBICK DA13 votesYou forgot the buffed
i didn't forget anything, the list was just too long for everything he got in this patch.
Lajneen11 votesTalon 47% win rate Rengar 46% win rate Riven 44% win rate Zed 42% win rate Kha'Zix 40% win rate
''The Assassin meta is back!''
''The itemization changes is a buff to Assassins!''
''Assassins will be strong now when ADCs are even more valuable!''
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesTalon 47% win rate Rengar 46% win rate Riven 44% win rate Zed 42% win rate Kha'Zix 40% win rate
''The Assassin meta is back!''
''The itemization changes is a buff to Assassins!''
''Assassins will be strong now when ADCs are even more valuable!''
"just pick an assassin"
YumaS2Astral2 votes"just pick an assassin"
There aren't just AD assassins. AP assassins are also there. They aren't affected by the changes because they build like mages.
That said:
LeBlanc 46% winrate Katarina 49% winrate Fizz 50% winrate Nidalee 52% winrate Evelynn 51% winrate Akali 51% winrate for top lane, 47% winrate for mid lane And if you count Diana as an assassin too, she has 51% winrate on average
Source: http://champion.gg/
Yrzen2 votesChampion.gg doesn't have the updated 5.22 win rates. According to the little blurb at the top of every page, it's still 1 day away.
Leblanc 47.2% Katarina 48.2% Fizz 50.6% Nidalee 42.5% Evelynn 48.1%
That being said, Lajneen's statistics are also off, though somewhat close. Perhaps not looking at all ranked tiers or something, idk.
Talon 49.8% Rengar 48.2% Riven 45.3% Zed 44.7% Kha'zix 44.7%
Source: http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/all/by-winrate
Still overall terrible for assassins.
YumaS2Astral1 votesChampion.gg doesn't have the updated 5.22 win rates. According to the little blurb at the top of every page, it's still 1 day away.
Leblanc 47.2% Katarina 48.2% Fizz 50.6% Nidalee 42.5% Evelynn 48.1%
That being said, Lajneen's statistics are also off, though somewhat close. Perhaps only looking at once ranking tier instead of all of them.
Talon 49.8% Rengar 48.2% Riven 45.3% Zed 44.7% Kha'zix 44.7%
Source: http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/all/by-winrate
Still overall terrible for assassins.
But AP assassins still have higher average winrate than AD assassins.
This can be explained by the fact that their core items are overall unchanged, only their price is higher though.
Lajneen1 votesMy stats comes from http://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/
Since time has passed they're slightly different now, but still terrible.
CasterGilgamesh3 votesI tried playing Talon but I keep getting killed by the ADC.i literally got out dueled by an AD Kog he just over healed my damage with blade of the ruin King
Wind Whistler1 votesI tried playing Talon but I keep getting killed by the ADC.i literally got out dueled by an AD Kog he just over healed my damage with blade of the ruin King
That's really sad, considering how weak Kog'Maw is now.
JustMyBassCannon3 votesIt hasn't been 72 hours, from where the hell are you drawing this statistic?
Blue Moon Wolf3 votesZed has 44% win rate
http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15516851/2941762-lfs11.png ... wait a minute .__.
BluePolarizer2 voteslol you think that they give a fk about Zed mains?
Now if Zed is not 10-0 by 10 minutes he is useless because lol Merc Scimitar lol PD lol Death's Dance lol trying to assassinate graves.
KONO RUBICK DA1 voteslol you think that they give a fk about Zed mains?
Now if Zed is not 10-0 by 10 minutes he is useless because lol Merc Scimitar lol PD lol Death's Dance lol trying to assassinate graves.
can just prevent you from being killed right now, there are no armor penetration this is all you need with maybe PD and some lifesteal like BT.
Craft Zeppelin2 votesThey put last whisper out and most of the Ad assassins are out of the picture now. Khazix, talon ,zed. riven. all dead ya know.
FastAsHeck2 votes
YuGiHo2 votesyour just picking the wrong assassins. stop trying to be a pro zed and just play talon
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesyour just picking the wrong assassins. stop trying to be a pro zed and just play talon
how can you play talon without flask?
Lugg2 votesI just looked it up and it's 47% since the new patch came out. Plus Zed mains still have over a 55% win rate.
Gregor Gysi2 votesHow do you know what kind of winrate Zed mains have? champion.gg hasn't updated yet and op.gg shows a 43.3% winrate for today in NA (Riven has 44% btw). I'm really excited for champion.gg to update tomorrow, that's going to be fun :>
Sir Yamazuki1 votesHow do you know what kind of winrate Zed mains have? champion.gg hasn't updated yet and op.gg shows a 43.3% winrate for today in NA (Riven has 44% btw). I'm really excited for champion.gg to update tomorrow, that's going to be fun :>
There was a 12% win rate difference last patch, if his average is 44 then his win rate with mains is still going to be around 50 or above it...
Lugg1 votesWell the update just happened, and Zed has an OVERALL win rate barely below 50% with mains having over a 55% win rate as I stated and predicted.
SwapShadows2 votesWell the update just happened, and Zed has an OVERALL win rate barely below 50% with mains having over a 55% win rate as I stated and predicted.
I don't even have to check any website to say your post is full of bullshit.
no way can Zed after receiving countless nerfs this patch be near 50% in plat+ or even all elos tbh
Lugg1 voteshttp://champion.gg/champion/Zed/Middle
Read it and weep. Feel free to apologize.
Lajneen2 votesThey still use the previous patch's statistics, genius.
Lugg1 votesBut the win rate has gone up significantly. That shows that Zed's are doing REALLY well this patch.
Lajneen3 votesHis win rate dropped to 42% this update, get your facts straight.
He currently has the 4th lowest win rate in the game.
Lugg1 votesPlease link where you are getting that info.
SwapShadows1 votesPlease link where you are getting that info.
the website is still using old masteries and zed's old build.
go troll elsewhere bronzodia
Lugg1 votesYeah, you just pulled the info out of your ass as usual. Anytime I have ever asked you for factual info, you can't provide it.
So once again, I win, you lose.
SwapShadows2 votesYeah, you just pulled the info out of your ass as usual. Anytime I have ever asked you for factual info, you can't provide it.
So once again, I win, you lose.
you used a website that is using old masteries and the old zed build
please stop lmao
SwapShadows1 voteshttp://champion.gg/champion/Zed/Middle
Read it and weep. Feel free to apologize.
lmao using champion.gg lol
Look at the item builds ....
Lugg1 votesChampion.gg probably has the best info in most cases. If you think it's a joke, that would explain why you don't understand League at all.
The best item build won't be known yet since all the new items have to be tested by players.
Gregor Gysi1 votesWell the update just happened, and Zed has an OVERALL win rate barely below 50% with mains having over a 55% win rate as I stated and predicted.
http://i.imgur.com/viLr5iM.jpg
Also, more accurate statistics: http://www.lolking.net/champions/zed?region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/de/champions/stats/zed
Feel free to - you know :)
Lugg1 votesI used the LOLKing stats until I found Champion.gg which is better. I did like the League of Graphs and I have added it to my bookmarks.
However, if you actually looked at the stats, Anyone who plays Zed more than 25 games has a 50% or better win rate. So Zed is fine, his win rate is just being brought WAY down by players who don't know how to play him.
Gregor Gysi2 voteschampion.gg just updated. You still didn't realize that champion.gg hadn't updated at the time you wrote. Now everything you wrote is completely obsolete. It's a fact that your whole argumentation is based on outdated data. Take a look at this. Zed is TRASH atm. BAD. Like really, really bad. Those with 15-50 games played don't even have 42% winrate. Beginners have a 36% winrate. MAINS with 125+ games (keep in mind, most of them have probably several hundred games) don't have a 48% winrate. Which is WAY worse than Anivia beginners. Dude. I know you dislike Zed, but Zed is BAD. It's a fact, whether you like it or not.
Lugg1 votesMy argument was made on the data at hand. His winrate literally didn't drop until 3 days ago. So either people have figured out how to itemize against him, it's a fluke and will even out eventually, or (the one I think most likely) is that more and more people are playing the broken champions which makes all the other champs look weak.
Zed hasn't been nerfed, so he definitely isn't trash. He will be back to a healthy win rate once Riot gets the game somewhat balanced.
Gregor Gysi2 votesMy argument was made on the data at hand. His winrate literally didn't drop until 3 days ago. So either people have figured out how to itemize against him, it's a fluke and will even out eventually, or (the one I think most likely) is that more and more people are playing the broken champions which makes all the other champs look weak.
The changes did not only make a few champions OP and broken. The changes completely shifted the meta, which is why every champions is weaker/stronger than before. And Zed happens to be shit.
Zed hasn't been nerfed, so he definitely isn't trash. He will be back to a healthy win rate once Riot gets the game somewhat balanced.
He has been nerfed, lol. They removed W-Q animation cancel in addition to the unfavorable changes. There is no clean environment. I didn't say Zed WAS trash. I didn't say Zed IS GOING TO BE trash. I said that Zed IS trash. Which is completely right.
Lugg1 votesZed hasn't had a nerf since patch 5.9 when they lowered his teleport to his shadow by 1 second, which was then mostly reverted later on. The previous nerf to that was back in 5.2. I can't find anything in the patch notes about his animation cancel being removed.
Zed has NEVER been trash since his release. When they did the nerf in 5.9, it was the closest he has ever been to being balanced. Yeah, he is a difficult champion to master, but he is very strong once you get him down.
Gregor Gysi1 votesAhh no worries, it's completely normal that you don't find it. After all it's been like.. A week? Dude, it's in the CURRENT PATCH. Do you want to tell me that you are blind?? http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-522-notes STRG+F then "zed" Should I screenshot it for you?! Goddamn, first you insisted on not realizing that champion.gg hasn't updated and now you want to tell me that you can't remember the 5.22 notes?
Also he IS Trash. Right. Now. Trash = extremely weak to practically every other champion there is. Only Riven, Nidalee and Kog'Maw suck as much as Zed atm. AT - THE - MOMENT. If you 'master' Zed aka play him more than 125 games at platinum+ you will still have a 48% winrate. Do you think 48% winrate is 'very strong'?
Lugg1 votesDude, settle down, you're going to have an embolism or something.
The current patch didn't nerf him at all. If you actually read it, you would see that if fixed and exploit. That's all it did.
Zed, Riven, Nid, and Kog look to be weak and have low win rates due to so many champions that are in their roles are completely broken. I can see that you think they trash due to this, but once those broken champs get fixed, all of them will be back to good win rates.
Kog is a good example. He is the main ADC I play when I have to fill that role and he is nowhere near as bad as people say. People just need to adjust and get good. I haven't had much problem with him at all. It's just another case of whiny bitches crying because a champ is now balanced rather than being on the OP side.
Gregor Gysi1 votesDude, settle down, you're going to have an embolism or something.
The current patch didn't nerf him at all. If you actually read it, you would see that if fixed and exploit. That's all it did.
nerf = weaken It was not a bug, it was animation cancelling that was well-known for several patches. Seems that rito wanted to weaken Zed because they thought he'd be OP when ADC's are strong, but they were wrong.
Zed, Riven, Nid, and Kog look to be weak and have low win rates due to so many champions that are in their roles are completely broken. I can see that you think they trash due to this, but once those broken champs get fixed, all of them will be back to good win rates.
Ok, you don't seem to get it. Simple question: are Zed, Riven, Nid and Kog the worst champion this patch?
Kog is a good example. He is the main ADC I play when I have to fill that role and he is nowhere near as bad as people say. People just need to adjust and get good. I haven't had much problem with him at all. It's just another case of whiny bitches crying because a champ is now balanced rather than being on the OP side.
I don't think your personal experience counts for anything.
Lugg1 votesIt was not a bug, it was animation cancelling that was well-known for several patches.
The list of things that took Riot several patches to fix is about as long as the dictionary.
Ok, you don't seem to get it. Simple question: are Zed, Riven, Nid and Kog the worst champion this patch?
No, they are not. Their win rates have dropped because so many scrubs were playing them for freelo. Once they got to a meta where they aren't OP anymore, the bad players couldn't win with them anymore.
Twitch, Morde, Urgot, Shyvana, and Ezreal are all worse than them.
I don't think your personal experience counts for anything.
I guess your personal experience doesn't count for anything either.
Meep Man1 votesPick an Assassin that isnt hard countered by two items, one for AD and one for AP.
KONO RUBICK DA2 votes[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YiW8l0a4,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-13T17:32:43.110+0000)
Pick an Assassin that isnt hard countered by two items, one for AD and one for AP.
PD, DD, banshee, ninja tabi, and sustain in general are now the bane of assassins, the removal of flask even made assassins like talon unplayable in early game against 
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