I know Statikk Shiv was nerfed in patch 8.6 but I feel like it wasn't enough. I don't think the main problem was the wave clear. It was the damage. Playing a squishy melee champion against ADCs that have Statikk Shiv and losing 1/3 of your HP from one auto isn't fun. If I were to change this item I would reduce it's proc damage by 1/3 for ranged champions and keep it the same for melee ones.
XxxLumberJackxxX4 votesAdcs STILL have the best items... even after like 3 class updates. Zheal has too many upgrades, They have TWO options for additional waveclear.
Hópe2 votesAdcs STILL have the best items... even after like 3 class updates. Zheal has too many upgrades, They have TWO options for additional waveclear.
Thats not true, every class has better items than adcs. The issue you mean is the price of the items.
A titanic hydra is way better than stattik shiv
A triforce is always better than infinity edge
Its that the items scale off eachother for a goid price that makes them good
Critmaster Garen3 votesA titanic hydra is way better than stattik shiv
A triforce is always better than infinity edge
in a vacuum.
but infinity edge and two zeals become better than a titanic hydra, a triforce and a defensive item.
crit items multiply each other, which creates cubic scaling. ad is multiplied by crit, crit damage, and attack speed. this is what causes critical strike itemization to outscale the itemitzation of other carry classes.
so when you then add to the fact, that those 3 crit items are a combined 1000 gold cheaper than those 3 bruiser items, you get the shit were experiencing right now. where marksmen outscale other types of carries way too fast. add on top of that, that the bot lane turret is the weakest on the map and adc have easier access to turret first blood because of it, and the potential to get gold off 2 kills on a gank, and that gap widens even more.
you have like 3 to 5 minutes each game where as a non marksman, youre stronger than the bot lane, before you get outscaled.
Hópe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ybysmq84,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-03-25T14:40:48.923+0000)
in a vacuum.
but infinity edge and two zeals become better than a titanic hydra, a triforce and a defensive item.
crit items multiply each other, which creates cubic scaling. ad is multiplied by crit, crit damage, and attack speed. this is what causes critical strike itemization to outscale the itemitzation of other carry classes.
I feel like you didnt read my last sentence that says ''its that those items scale off eachother''
Hópe1 votesStattik shiv should be reworked. Theres no reason to give burst damage to a sustain class.
I think its it plys a big part in frustratiom for adcs too knowing if you don't buy this item you will lpse any 1v1 with another adc whl has it
The problem is ADCs are too good in general.
