I'm really curious because there is ZERO advantage to picking that. It shouldn't even exist IMO.
As a side not, why not just ask your team mates what they would like banned instead of picking "no ban"? There's just WAY too much bull shit floating around out there to be picking that.
ll3lackbeard8 votesIf it’s ranked, bottom line they really don’t take the match seriously. Either they are a 500 game same elo ranked spammer or they are a smurf and it doesn’t matter. It’s an indicator to me they don’t care if they win or lose. No other way to put it.
Ben SwoIo2 votesIf it’s ranked, bottom line they really don’t take the match seriously. Either they are a 500 game same elo ranked spammer or they are a smurf and it doesn’t matter. It’s an indicator to me they don’t care if they win or lose. No other way to put it.
I guess I'm curious as to why Riot even put that in as an option.
OneBarrel3 votesI'm Diamond 4 and I sometimes don't ban anyone.
Inkling Commando5 votesi swear if this another crying post about bans being removed from ARAM.....i never banned any champ in ARAM because ARAM never had bans to begin with. and that will not change. you wanna ban your problems away? fine. but i will not follow everyone else on the ban train.
Ben SwoIo4 votes[{quoted}](name=Inkling Commando,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YWWEHuUG,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-04-17T18:41:59.221+0000)
i swear if this another crying post about bans being removed from ARAM.....i never banned any champ in ARAM because ARAM never had bans to begin with. and that will not change. you wanna ban your problems away? fine. but i will not follow everyone else on the ban train.
Actually it just had to do with people picking "no ban" in general. I don't care which mode.
KVbqbFsC8e4 votesSome people do not care what they are playing against. If the 1 or 2 champions I usually ban are already banned, I'll either choose none or I'll ban Bard since I like the noise it makes.
Ben SwoIo9 votes[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YWWEHuUG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-17T02:19:30.891+0000)
Some people do not care what they are playing against. If the 1 or 2 champions I usually ban are already banned, I'll either choose none or I'll ban Bard since I like the noise it makes.
So why not ask a team mate if there's something they would like banned? It's not just about what YOU don't like going against, it's more about what's good for the TEAM. Like I said, there's just WAY too much bull shit out there that's should be banned for anyone to be picking "no ban".
GreenHydralisk3 votesIf Kayle or Darius is banned then I have nothing else to ban. There's usually not enough time to ask and for someone to respond
Ben SwoIo3 votesIf Kayle or Darius is banned then I have nothing else to ban. There's usually not enough time to ask and for someone to respond
Yeah, but there's a whole list of champs that everyone knows is pretty op ATM so I don't get why people don't pick 'em? Then someone goes and wrecks the match with some shit like 
or 
and proceeds to flame their team mates. Could've been avoided with a simple ban as opposed to "no ban."
Myrza4 votesMy suggestion is to make it a "random" ban instead, so that it will pick one champion that is not hovered by a teammate and ban it if you haven't selected anything.
AIQ5 votesNo, it's possible that someone who has just not hovered their champion could get banned, or even ban their own. Much healthier to force them to ban something or a button to give a ban away to a random ally.
Myrza1 votesNo, it's possible that someone who has just not hovered their champion could get banned, or even ban their own. Much healthier to force them to ban something or a button to give a ban away to a random ally.
I do see the issue with accidentally banning a teammate's pick when they haven't hovered. Maybe it could look at the last 10 champions that the person played and if it finds a common champ, it reduces the risk of it being banned. Although I know nothing of programming or coding, so I have no idea if this is actually possible.
However, I do agree that it might be better to force them to ban an actual champion, or at least add a button to ban a random champion off from the lane you've been assigned in case it passes off your ban to someone else who can't lock in bans right away. (For example, personal experience, some days I can lock in my ban fast without lag, some days I can't, and my computer is decent.)
OneBarrel4 votesI'm Diamond 4 and I don't ban any champions and I have a 57% win rate. I don't ban champions because I understand how to play in the meta. I understand counterplay and itemization and adaptation. I don't randomly ban a champion that I dislike playing against. Also, my teamates or me have the possibility of playing it.
Ben SwoIo4 votesI'm Diamond 4 and I don't ban any champions and I have a 57% win rate. I don't ban champions because I understand how to play in the meta. I understand counterplay and itemization and adaptation. I don't randomly ban a champion that I dislike playing against. Also, my teamates or me have the possibility of playing it.
Your rank doesn't mean anything, picking "no ban" is still pointless. Pros ban champs all the time. You saying you understand counterplay, itemization and adaptation better than them?
OneBarrel3 votesPros ban because they have set team compositions laid out before them. If they suspect the opponent will optimize for a comp, they will ban it out. Pro players also have multiple stages of banning where players ban then pick then ban etc. No, I am not saying I understand the game better than pros. I'm saying that banning is required. After all, how did I reach my rank if it was disadvantageous to not banning?
Ben SwoIo2 votesPros ban because they have set team compositions laid out before them. If they suspect the opponent will optimize for a comp, they will ban it out. Pro players also have multiple stages of banning where players ban then pick then ban etc. No, I am not saying I understand the game better than pros. I'm saying that banning is required. After all, how did I reach my rank if it was disadvantageous to not banning?
But why do they ban then if there's no advantage to it? According to you, it doesn't matter so who cares what comp they go for. They should be able to counterplay, itemize and adapt right?
IMO, that's PART of counter play. Take away whatever strong meta champ the enemy team is probably going to pick and put your team at an ADVANTAGE. We all know in our elos that people LOVE playing the flavor of the month till it's nerfed.
BTW, diamond 4 isn't that high, don't toot your own horn.
MAY I LEAD4 votesOk. First, the answer is because you do not always know exactly who you are going to go and many times you kind of want to pick to help your comp so there is no reason to ban someone. In example say you're support and you are thinking about playing Thresh, Nami, or Pyke.
If you go Thresh then you REALLY want to ban Morgana.
If you go Nami then you're going to want to ban an all in support like Alistar or Leona.
If you go Pyke then you are really going to want to ban a mage support like Brand or Zyra.
Even more so if you see the enemy pick Thresh then you can just pick Morgana.
But often times people don't hover champions and many times their hovers get banned. So, it is better to just ban no one, keep all your options open and pick either to help your comp or counter your enemy laner.
Second, there really aren't that many wildly unbalanced champions in this game. Kayle is a little ridiculous right now but other than that you can counter pick everyone. This is why I have never for the life of me understood why people permaban certain champions. In example, Darius, Draven, Yasuo, Zed, Teemo, Vayne, Riven, Fiora, Master Yi, etc.
Everyone of these champions have hard counters and the overwhelming majority of them are actually ridiculously underpowered.
The champions who actually deserve perma banned are the champions with very few counters. These champions usually have a win rate around 52%. In example, right now Ahri, Kayle, Urgot, Jinx, Malzahar, and Morgana are all very ban worthy right now.
Ben SwoIo4 votesOk. First, the answer is because you do not always know exactly who you are going to go and many times you kind of want to pick to help your comp so there is no reason to ban someone. In example say you're support and you are thinking about playing Thresh, Nami, or Pyke.
That makes no sense. You want to help your team comp with your own pick yet you won't pick a ban to take out someone who's extremely strong?
If you go Thresh then you REALLY want to ban Morgana.
If you go Nami then you're going to want to ban an all in support like Alistar or Leona.
I get what you're saying and it's not new, I think everyone knows that. This is season 9 though, so counter picks aren't as relevant as strong meta picks. I would MUCH rather face Morgana as Thresh than risk going against Pyke, having him become fed and running all over the map clicking R. I've had success with it, but Pyke is just a pain in the ass. Same goes for a numerous amount of other champs.
But often times people don't hover champions and many times their hovers get banned. So, it is better to just ban no one, keep all your options open and pick either to help your comp or counter your enemy laner.
I don't hover my champ, so if one of 'em gets banned oh well. Key phrase being ONE of them. No reason to have ALL my options open. I'm not a one trick and I don't think most people are. It's very common to have at least 2-3 champs you're comfortable playing in your lane. I've never had a problem fitting any one of them into my team's comps. I adjust accordingly. Plus, picking a ban has absolutely nothing to do with the odds of your own champ being banned so that makes no sense (unless its a strong meta champ.)
Kayle is a little ridiculous right now but other than that you can counter pick everyone. This is why I have never for the life of me understood why people permaban certain champions. In example, Darius, Draven, Yasuo, Zed, Teemo, Vayne, Riven, Fiora, Master Yi, etc.
Lol, what hard counters? Then you go and say that 
are ban worthy? I mean whatever floats your boat but I'd much rather see 
get banned.
Syndra1ShotJFK3 votesI just ban Aatrox, since he's the first champion on the roster.
Some people want to face an "annoying" champion Zed or Yasuo. Honestly, TF shits on Zed in lane, start boots + pot 4, 2 armor runes. Take minion dematerializer (or the biscuit rune) and stopwatch. Build tabis > catalyst > armguard. Zed will never one shot you, in the early game. Harass lvl 1 when he goes for minions. Let him push, but once he's lvl 3 he'll be so low that you can just zone him completely off of farm. I think TF is the best counter to assassins in lane.
Cass shits on Yasuo or at least goes even once she gets tear and beyond. Bait Yasuo into jumping onto your wave to get to you. Wait for him to use his dash ONTO you before you throw out Q. Then, just kite his ass. You heavily outdamage him in extended trades, because he can't touch you once he uses his dash ONTO you (because you know that he can't dash again if he just used it on you, then you can just Q where he is standing). You can create distance between you and Yasuo from Q ms boost + PHASE RUSH. If he throws out windwall, you can still outmaneuver him, or force him to back the fuck up. When Yasuo throws out 3rd Q as Cass, press R since he will be facing you during that slightly long cast animation time. Throw out a w > Q > Espam = gg. If R is not up, just press w when he throws out 3rd q. He can't ult, and you can fuck him up.
Against Leblanc, play Syndra. The counterplay is to push against her (be mind of Jungler), since her waveclear is so shit, while using e to disengage any Q> w from her. Matchup is so easy, not even funny. When she Q you you know she wanna W. So just Q> W her. Even if you miss q, E will proc the stun. Make sure to aim your QE at her w pad if she does manage to tag you with QW, however.
Some people don't ban because they want to face an "annoying" champion. To be honest, facing a Zed, Yasuo, Leblanc makes the lane more fun for me. I personally hate farm lanes, and facing an assassin makes the game more fun, even if you occasionally get shit on. Because it feels good to be under pressure a lot, not just cruise through a boring laning phase. A Yasuo is not impossible to win against. Zed, is not impossible to win against. Syndra shits on Zed pre-6. Though after 6 you gotta be more careful.
Then again, I'm only gold elo, I've probably haven't met extremely mechanically talented Zeds, Yasuos, Leblancs. But this is my 2 cents on their counterplay.
Plus, you are going to face them eventually, so why ban them? The best feeling is to shit on these champions. Give yourself a chance!
Though, I mainly ban Zed if I am autofilled, since sometimes I do not want to deal with a Fed zed as Nidalee support....
Ben SwoIo2 votesHonestly, TF shits on Zed in lane, start boots + pot 4, 2 armor runes. Take minion dematerializer (or the biscuit rune) and stopwatch. Build tabis > catalyst > armguard. Zed will never one shot you, in the early game. Harass lvl 1 when he goes for minions. Let him push, but once he's lvl 3 he'll be so low that you can just zone him completely off of farm. I think TF is the best counter to assassins in lane.
I don't know what Zeds you have played against but TF into Zed is terrible.....for the TF player. I don't think I've ever lost to TF as Zed.
DrippyBrownHole3 votesThere's plenty of advantage in picking no ban.
Ben SwoIo3 votesThere's plenty of advantage in picking no ban.
Interesting statement. Care to elaborate?
DrippyBrownHole3 votesSure. Choosing to not ban a champion provides a different set of advantages compared to when you ban a champion.
Ben SwoIo5 votesSure. Choosing to not ban a champion provides a different set of advantages compared to when you ban a champion.
And those advantages would be? Smells like a troll post.
Taemerlein1 votesSorry its late but the reason you don't ban anything is so that it gives the enemy laner less clues about who you are or where you are going.
yuy9241 votesBut you very well just ask your teammates what they want banned so that they can't guess YOUR lane. Or you could just ban literally anything in any lane and have a higher chance of getting rid of one of their champs than you would without banning anyone.
Not banning makes absolutely 0 sense
True Garen3 votesI'm really curious because there is ZERO advantage to picking that. It shouldn't even exist IMO.
As a side not, why not just ask your team mates what they would like banned instead of picking "no ban"? There's just WAY too much bull shit floating around out there to be picking that.
If this is regarding the recent ARAM mode... then it was difficult to see the logic in banning any champion in a random blind mode.
14daysuspensionk2 votesI once saw the enemy team pick 3 no bans...
Flawless Fetus2 votesEither they afkd ban phase or they're a moron.