Senna: Broken or Not Broken? (poll)

Generally a champ hitting over 50% WR on the patch they're released on means they're pretty overtuned

50 50. she has very clear weakness in early and midgame. but also strength.

if you go 0/5 then even your 800 range wont do you that much good.

I think for the moment shes actually relatively balanced. IMO leave her as is and lets re-visit this question in about a month when people have gotten more experience playing as and against her and see where were at then.

But for now it seems like she has clear strengths and weaknesses and doesnt need any change.

Some really entertaining build path options and high versatility in items and runes. I think... shes developed more for next season kinda like the eve rework so put me down for dunno yet. Once the preseason hits i think it will be better to gauge. Her E is not as oppressively strong as the massive amount of Tilt over her kit would have implied, thou it will be rather strong in coordinated play is my expectation.

Its basically pyke all over again.

"Lets overtune the champ so it can work as a AD without real items." "But what if they farm and buy items?" "They wont..." "Why wouldnt they if the champ is totaly overtuned?" "Ehm.... They wont!" "Ok, good enough!"

Senna will get the Qiyanna treatment. She will seem weak at first, but when people learn her kit, she is gonna dominate

She's been out for 5 days and is currently at 53% win rate at Diamond+ and climbing. This makes her one of the highest win rate supports atm.

You should be looking at the current daily win rate for new champions, not the average win rate over time, because it's dumpstered by people trying her out on the first day.

That says enough about how balanced she is, aka not at all.

whole laning phase she spams her spams, staying with full mana and health and harassing you non stop, once you engage, she just does her invincibility thing, like how are we supposed to kill her?

100% free win in any aram, no matter the team, no matter the skill. 100+ stacks in 10 minutes, incredible damage, 300 ad 100% crit chance with 2 items AND the highest range in the game by far while other adcs have 200 ad tops and no crit. Its the character with 4 ultimate abilities instead of 1.

Bullying enemy characters for 1/3 their health every auto or Q while staying outside of the range of all their abilities and having the best escape and CC in the game at the same time is very "fun".

Senna is weak to all-ins and assasins and people who can gap close.

She can have success but defintetly not an overtuned champion.

Her E works more as an engage skill than a disengage. Actually, i don't think i ever managed to use it as a disengage unless i had a lot of distance between me and the coming enemy simply because they can still hit you with skills or just attack you when they are too close which means escaping melee with this skill is next to impossible

Hmm. Personally, I think her kit is in a good place regarding intended strengths and weaknesses. E might become a copper-plated bitch to balance between organised play and solo queue, though.

Number-wise, she's probably a tad overtuned and could stand to have a few training wheels removed. For instance, she has 330 movement speed despite her superlong AA range. All champions with comparable permanent AA ranges have 325, the lowest in the game.

Super OP please remove.

I don't think she's broken I think shes OVERLOADED

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Anyone who believes Senna is not overturned/has an overloaded kit has a brain deficiency.

I have played a ton of games as ekko mid for a long time and also in diamond. I played a against a ton of poke champs and never seen someone as disgusting as senna before. She can 1/2 yr hp at lv 1 with 2 q's and a auto plus passive proc. You cant even walk up to cs because her poke is ridiculous . Making it also point click kills any juke potential. To make it worse, she doesn't even need items to do damg. 12/1 ekko getting 1/2 yr hp from a 1/6 senna with just a couple of q and autos? That's nuts. Imagine a fed one now. On the bright side, she is super easy to kill If u do manage to get on her though. Like really easy. I think she is overturned but not broken. I do wonder how riot is gonna balance her out though. They need to nerf the damg and range a little but at the same time it might make her useless due to how ez she is killed. Let's just see what riot has in store for her. But she really do need a nerf though.

She's super overloaded, but not necessarily broken op bc her numbers aren't that great

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She has nearly same ban rate as Yasuo so she is too powerful compared to other supports. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/

her q needs some adjusting i would say to add a condition to the heal so that it can only heal when it goes through allies otehrwise she can abuse it in every lane especially with how low cooldown it has.

her q is literally the same as old kunai spam where she had insane amount of heal.

Okay i'm going say thins now I cant spell. First off her moves....... excuse the fck me but stun that hits its a basic gg for that champion bot lane, not dead per say but half health at least. dodge you say? oh hit a minion behind you, splash stun your fcked. Pyke can go invisible. senna can too.... wait she makes herself and her friends invisible? EVEN OUT SIDE THE MAIN CIRCLE YOU CANT TARGET? crazy I know right. her long ranged damage or poke is absolutely disgusting hurts you and with that same move can heal her allies. thats not crazy? oh wait cant forget the ult that spans the whole map. oh like ezreal or ashe...... but wait their is more their is range around it giving true sight, crazy right? oh yeah it also heals and shields your allies? CRAZY RIGHT? it spams like half a lane? ez whole lane healed. team fights? again area stun easy 2 people cucked. I wont argue the broken passive cause yall already know. she is the most nasty move from certain champs amplified then reworked for the absolute master piece thst is this broken champ. true she has about 2 good counter leona and maybe thresh if your good. other than that she dominates almost all adc ranged that is. supports wait she is a support? no she is the adc the only time she is out done is by a good draven. put 2 and 2 together you cant win bot lane without mid ad jungle ganking at the same time even then senna can just pyke it right out there bringing draven and hiding him too. over all busted, ranged damage, abilities, passive, I mean everything she is gross and I hate her on a personal level. I play bot lane in random queue the real problem is if your support is good not the god da*n senna they pike pyke your screwed, pick brand screwed, almost any support except for like leona blitzcrank or maybe nautules, can really work on her. I am a low rank speaking not really into ranked. im level 80 something and have played probably 20 games or more with senna in them. i play all lanes top mid bot and all roles jungle and support and no matter what lane I play as a bronze 1 solo/duo or silver 3 flex she makes the game. if you have senna on your team you got a 90% win chance. again Im low and not the best but I know how to counter and what not. I have played at least half the champs and hands down would take a yasuo, kalista, draven, mord, kled, whatever is the most broken champion over senna. she can stack not just off kills but cs she is disgusting and mean and a true lane bully big debuff needed. so basically what im saying is low ranks, please for the love of all that is holy ban her, or have leona or blitz bought especially if your a support.

I mean we all know from Riot that they got the Talent to create champs who are OP. But this Time they have gone to far... The creator of Senna should be fired for real. I mean whats the thinking behind that Character? She is literally 2 Champs in one the most broken Champ Riot ever made. She has Q wich has a very long range + it heals you + it dmgs the Enemy. Her W wich deals DMG + ROOTS the enemy. Her E wich makes her invisible like oldschool Akali. Her R wich allows you shooting ppls down all over the MAP? Even her Passive wich makes you able to dmg someone from far after you dmged him and after 100 Souls you get a free IE?? Things like this showing me always again that Riot Games dont give a fuck about this Game/Champs anymore. Everyone who would be good in his Brain would never creat an Champ like Senna And creators like Sennas actually earning a bunch of Money with.

Sometimes i get bored always banning Senna, so i ban something else...... Great mistake, because ppl pick her and i cry on bot lane. I've seen Senna picked with nearly all the champs in the game, it always works. Why ? Because her range is insane and kinda impossible to punish. She can misposition, she doesn't care, nobody can get close except if you want to get root and kill. A good senna can even reset auto so fast that she nearly kills you in less than 3 sec lvl 2........ I played against her today, i lost ofc. She could, with 68 stacks and a good reset auto, destroy and out range the towers !!!!!!!!!! I was like "wtf, thought she could not do it before 100 stacks !", idk why ppl say she can only do 4 q lvl 1 before backing, cause it's not true, she can spam it, it doesn't cost that much mana, and most of the time, you will have to back because you got q auto q and you're low life. (Dark harvest senna is way better than aery.) Her ult is fine, really not that broken, her invisibility too. The problems are her root, way too much range, her q, no mana cost and too much range + dmg, her passive, too easy to farm. She is god tier on the bot lane, adc AND support, and she is the only one. Brand or any poke champ used to be good against her, but idk why, i can't do anything now, probably because ppl know how to play her now, she has NO counter, a leona gets poke for free and /rekt if she engages, it'll be a root for her and goodbye. Same for most of the hook / grab champ. And she out heal and dmg the other supports, AND she out damage most adc in early AND in late with dark harvest and lethality build. Broken champ, that's aaaaaall.

Just ragequit a game vs her as Literally couldn't farm anything, even going for a Q meant taking 100+ damage. At 10 minutes i had , 20 CS and 5 deaths.

You don't call this BS a support ...

when people stop engaging when she lands a W or uses her E then they will win against her