Just a friendly reminder...

Inari Fox Orrion··15 votes·991 views

...that just because I don't agree with a choice you made, I'm not toxic.

I get that accepting other opinions is hard, but just because I calmly state "Yeah Fizz's fed. It's GG" I'm not being toxic. "Omfg this Yorick so trash fed Fizz" is toxic, and I could easily get a report being fired my way for that. But I don't do that. :/

  • Someone a bit tired of "Report plz" because someone disagreed with someone else, be it me or [alas!] Poor Yorick.

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Votable Jester4 votes

Calling it GG is at the very least an excessively negative attitude, particularly if it is pre-20. If it's pre-20, you should try to keep everyone's spirits up and work to turn it around. Then, if it hasn't gotten better by 20 you can call for ff and such.

If it's post-20 when you say that and your team already said no to the ff, you are being a little toxic. You're basically saying you're going to stop trying and the rest of them should too even though they are determined to turn it around. Unless it is beyond a shadow of a doubt that the enemy team will win, you should try to keep your team happy and focused.

RQ Amiable1 votes

I mean they both exhibit toxic behaviour. maybe instead of: A. Pointing out the persons kda B. Telling X perons they suck ( even though its as much as you ) C. Cursing all of these things are counted as bm. maybe try to not say anything at all and use the mute button it doesn't matter what you say to a toxic/tilted player. it will not make it better. they will either rage more, tilted harder, or feed harder. thus, its best to mute them, report them after the game and move on.

Inari Fox Orrion8 votes

...but I'm not really toxic for disliking your idea to do Baron with two people while being down a jungler, and voicing exactly why I disagree with that choice. I could get it if it was actually toxic while at it... but I'm not, and this is a game about communication and teamwork.

Me Malzahar: "Stop. We can't do it. Just take the turret instead." Ahri: "No, we have enough time. Their jungler's down." Me Malzahar: "We can't. Trust me. Karma's waiting in the wings." AhriNautilus duo Baron and... Karma steals it with her Q. Me Malzahar: "I told you! Why did you?! Dammit, now we have to deal with that." Ahri: /all "Report Malz for toxic plz"

That's how it usually goes. I have only twice in my lifetime ever flamed someone, and both times it was thanks to said person being a... very... interesting Ted Bundie-type. Someone who intentionally fed and ruined games and gave away our positions just to ruin our day.

ALL my advice or disagreement will ever consist of is "Stop. Don't. Trust me. It's a really bad idea." and, in the worst cases, "Dude, what the fuck? I told you it was a bad idea." ...but yet every so often, I get someone who tells me that I'm either being toxic or that they'll report me for being toxic despite it being nothing more than a disagreement in tactics.

BRNZ Rhawkie2 votes

It's not exactly toxic, but as MuffinMcSwagWalk had said, it is showing negative attitude. You are showing negative and very strong "disapproving" attitude towards what they have done, and many see it as toxic, which it isn't. It should rather be referred to as negativity, but it makes the players feel insecure because you are pointing out the problems that they are causing, rather than just flaming them - still not a good thing. Rather try and just keep it in or use other words which won't make other players feel insecure.

Inari Fox Orrion2 votes

I shouldn't have to hide my dislike for an idea! We need to communicate to win, and communication doesn't just boil down to "Oh kiss up to them" because, if it did, then we wouldn't have phrases like "Bad idea" and words like "No." and "Don't."

I don't even really see how it's a negative attitude, either, especially not when you're trying to win and improve your chances of winning. There are definitely good ways and bad ways to disagree, and plenty can verge on toxic, I won't deny.

Edit: This may be an awful comparison, but the W. Churches thought the same way; You can't show dissent or question anything they do. It's honestly a bit tyrannical and counterproductive.

Edit2: In the example, Akali was using her KDA to slag off my team. So, I just decided to "Hey, dude, you suck as much as me. You're 5/6/0. Shut up and quit BMing the team." and she actually did just that with some pushback from some other people.

Sometimes kindly rephrasing "Don't be a hypocrite" gets you somewhere, and those sometimes are worth the times it doesn't - because those people who listen likely won't be toxic again, whereas, as you said, the toxic people would continue to be toxic anyway.

Runesnag1 votes

Don't include the GG as that is really interpreted as complaining about who fed him. Say something like 'We need to stay away from this fizz if we're going to win, he's pretty fed' or 'If we don't kill Fizz we won't win the teamfight'. Those are more constructive, but it's a fizz, not much you can do about him.

Weasel Kensei1 votes

A lot of kids play this game...

A lot of idiots people play this game...

Expect some portion of players in every match to behave like stupid children.

The community has a hard time being properly policed by itself because so many reports are childish and stupid.

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