Can we buff WW a little

Bultz·Nov 14, 2019·2 votes·2,960 views

For his W, stop having it reset the Attack speed from one opponent to the next. If he gained AS, let him keep it for like 5 seconds. Also when his blood scent is active don’t let his movement speed be reset by being hit. He is a ferocious predator who can’t catch anyone because his one bonus for playing him doesn’t work if they hit you one time........I played pre rework Warwick all the time in all lanes because I loved it and the rework is great but he needs some love. There is plenty of CC in the game to stop him and not need him to be debuffed every second.

13 Comments

AIQNov 14, 20196 votes

I think WW needs his bugs fixed first, before we evaluate if he needs to be buff.

His Q/W/R all have a slew of bugs from ratios not matching values, to blood scent being interrupted when a healthy target runs between him and his target and flash canceling his ult. Once some of those are fix, then consider if buffing him is needed.

BultzNov 16, 20191 votes

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I think WW needs his bugs fixed first, before we evaluate if he needs to be buff.

His Q/W/R all have a slew of bugs from ratios not matching values, to blood scent being interrupted when a healthy target runs between him and his target and flash canceling his ult. Once some of those are fix, then consider if buffing him is needed.

Yes, he does need bug fixes. But I think quality of life changes would help him tons. We don't need higher numbers, but his W needs to be enhanced. Having a movement speed of 335 is pretty slow. His W is supposed to make up for that. But losing ms when auto attacked ruins the experience and the ability to catch anyone with long range.

NaughtyWordNov 14, 20192 votes

I love Warwick, I think he is arguably the most balanced champ in this game, or at least deserves to be part of that conversation. He clears well, he ganks well, everything you'd want in a jungler.

I've some QoL changes I would make regarding his E but other than that, he's pretty solid.

BultzNov 16, 20191 votes

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I love Warwick, I think he is arguably the most balanced champ in this game, or at least deserves to be part of that conversation. He clears well, he ganks well, everything you'd want in a jungler.

I've some QoL changes I would make regarding his E but other than that, he's pretty solid.

I hve to dissagree, his W needs to be improved. He has one of the lowest movement speeds in the game because his W is supposed to make up for that, but if you chase anyone with long range or a trap or anything, his movement speed buff is removed and it's mind numbing to use and just keep being auto attacked to remove the buff. Same with his Attack speed. Having it reset really just kills it in a negative way.

WTBeGirl100EUhrNov 15, 20192 votes

I would love it if they made AAing a target below a certain HP threshhold grant an AS buff for a short duration. Probably less buggy with fewer wonky interactions with orbwalking than the current iteration.

There's some other problems with blood scent being body-blockable (?!) or very slow to update.

There's also a bug currently where Evelynn (and other stealth champions?) will continue to have blood scent appear on them if they enter stealth below the threshhold and heal up (which is wrong) but will not grant movement speed (as they shouldn't and is correct).

XJ99999999999999Nov 14, 20191 votes

can we buff vi instead. ww is already a better vi and ww has a good winrate lol

DracocrashNov 15, 20191 votes

The WW rework was a total failure, I have no idea why people think it was good. He had a higher playrate before the rework. (down-vote me all you want, 90% of you who say ww rework was a sucess dont have more than 3 games on him) I REALLY miss pre-rework warwick, but hes never going to get reverted, so better to move on then try to fix this buggy piece of garbage.

BultzNov 16, 20191 votes

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The WW rework was a total failure, I have no idea why people think it was good. He had a higher playrate before the rework.

I REALLY miss pre-rework warwick, but hes never going to get reverted, so better to move on then try to fix this buggy piece of garbage.

Pre rework WW was a beast, I could 5v1 people when playing right. I miss it too, but we have what we have and should try to improve the quality of life he has. If they fix his W he would be super fun.

TehNACHONov 15, 20191 votes

Wait for S10 first. The Gromp Change is a really big deal for a Lv3 Single Target Jungler like Warwick and we shouldn't be forcing balance changes on Junglers until we know what 3 camp Gromp does to the game.

BultzNov 16, 20191 votes

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Wait for S10 first. The Gromp Change is a really big deal for a Lv3 Single Target Jungler like Warwick and we shouldn't be forcing balance changes on Junglers until we know what 3 camp Gromp does to the game.

These aren't really over the top changes, just quality of life. WW has super slow ms without his W. Trying to chase an adc or anyone with long range for that matter is super annoying when one auto attack makes you lose all of your movement speed buffs. Also his W resettinng on each new opponent is really annoying.

Daddy AntsNov 16, 20191 votes

Can we stop asking to buff champions who are balanced?

This is why the game gets so out of hand with balance sometimes.

Warwick is fine as he is.

Daddy AntsNov 17, 20191 votes

STOP ASKING FOR 50% WIN RATE CHAMPIONS TO BE BUFFED.

People keep crying that the game is a "unbalanced" mess but on the flip side are constantly asking for balanced champions to receive buffs.

No champion between 49 and 51% win rate should be buffed.

Champions above 52 should be considered for nerfs in my opinion.

Champions above 53 should be hotfix worthy.

BultzNov 17, 20191 votes

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STOP ASKING FOR 50% WIN RATE CHAMPIONS TO BE BUFFED.

People keep crying that the game is a "unbalanced" mess but on the flip side are constantly asking for balanced champions to receive buffs.

No champion between 49 and 51% win rate should be buffed.

Champions above 52 should be considered for nerfs in my opinion.

Champions above 53 should be hotfix worthy.

Yeah, 50% win rate isn't balance. It's a percentage that doesn't account for the champions wellbeing nor the players ability to fully do what they should with said champion. Some champions are balanced at a 48% win rate, some at a 52% win rate. Warwick isn't balanced. He is full of bugs that haven't been addressed in ages and a kit that is sub par with easy QOL changes to fix it. People like you who don't understand how a champion works are the problem. You go on here high and mighty and don't look at the functionality of said champion and pretend win rates and ban rates mean something. If Draven is at a 50% win rate, he is broken. He is supposed to be a high skill champion and 50% of people winning means he is too strong. On the other hand, If Warwick is at a 50% win rate as a low skill required champion, it's usually a sign something is wrong.