Change Teemo's Q into a real blindness

Son Olivia Hye·Nov 16, 2015·35 votes·2,368 views

Change Teemo's Q so you can't see anything like when your in Grave's W.

Edit: The blindness would last for like 1.5 seconds.

33 Comments

Kal Vas FlamNov 16, 201537 votes

In addition, everytime you step on a shroom the screen should shake and rapidly turn different rainbow colors while Teemo's face flashes in the center. Hitting someone with his poison dart should cause their mouse to stop working for 5 seconds.

DïeWithDüstinNov 16, 20155 votes

i like this one man.

Hyrum GraffNov 17, 20151 votes

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In addition, everytime you step on a shroom the screen should shake and rapidly turn different rainbow colors while Teemo's face flashes in the center. Hitting someone with his poison dart should cause their mouse to stop working for 5 seconds.

Totally approve of making teemo the psycological warfare champ.

Earthlord JazzNov 16, 201511 votes

I can just imagine the plays of blinding someone and being able to stealth before the blind ends. They'd have no idea where you went or where you stealthed

Penta PenguinNov 16, 20155 votes

As a Teemo player I can tell you right now, this isn't an equivalent change, it's a direct buff, if he can stop enemies from targeting spells because they can't see anyone. I don't think he needs that because he's very strong right now with map control, and vs. auto attack champions.

SlyTactician Nov 16, 20151 votes

Agreed, Teemo's blind is already annoying to deal with - and adding this would make him difficult to lane against especially if he continues to poke afterwards with his toxic darts.

Though I don't agree with his map control strengths at the timebeing especially with the shroom duration being heavily nerfed from 10 to 5 minutes. I feel he could use a bit more speed to his gameplay so he can play true to the hit and run mechanic his kit seems to offer. His shrooms don't even detonate after being thrown as they need to be planted first before they activate.

Penta PenguinNov 17, 20151 votes

5 minutes is still a long-ass time

also it's very easy to toss a shroom at rank 3 onto the enemy team. Nothing wrong at all with tossing one, let's say if you're sieging and you throw one into them when they're under their turret. Even if they manage to kill it it creates pressure on them and is a nuisance.

LadyRenlyNov 17, 20156 votes

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As a Teemo player I can tell you right now, this isn't an equivalent change, it's a direct buff, if he can stop enemies from targeting spells because they can't see anyone. I don't think he needs that because he's very strong right now with map control, and vs. auto attack champions.

Teemo lost his map control with his ult rework

Penta PenguinNov 17, 20151 votes

No way.

5 Minutes is still plenty of time.

I think 10 minutes is why Teemo has a reputation for being so annoying, because that allows an excess of mushrooms and Teemo players never had to be that good to be a nuisance

Son Olivia HyeNov 17, 20151 votes

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As a Teemo player I can tell you right now, this isn't an equivalent change, it's a direct buff, if he can stop enemies from targeting spells because they can't see anyone. I don't think he needs that because he's very strong right now with map control, and vs. auto attack champions.

Yeah but I'm trying to say it'll last for like 1 Second and two posts above us they changed Quinn's Q to work like Grave's blindness as well so why shouldn't they do it to Teemo?

CriomhthannNov 16, 20153 votes

No. Teemo does not need any buffs. If anything Teemo needs nerfs, specifically in the form of erasing Teemo from the game.

IpolsNov 16, 20152 votes

and banning anyone that has him with mastery5

SlyTactician Nov 16, 20152 votes

Teemo isn't particularly strong as he has way too many weaknesses in his kit as opposed to pros. It's easy to outplay a Teemo with the pink wards being readily available now especially.

His shrooms were already heavily nerfed in a recent patch (throwing them might have seemed like a buff; however, the shroom duration was halved to 5 minutes which completely destroys his map control purpose he once had in the game), and his kit is starting to show signs of aging as it just doesn't help him that much aside from his outrageous pokes.

I do wish he would get a rework; however. Make him a little less toxic by gameplay and more mobile possibly to fit his scout-like demeanor. I feel this is appropriate as a Teemo main myself. ^_^

I do recall his original passive being mentioned to making a "pathway" for his allies as referred to earlier interviews about his character. I'd like to see more of an expansion to this trail-like gameplay whether it includes assisting allies in a more meaningful way especially during a teamfight.

I think what Teemo needs is a true gameplay identity - other than his "Satanic" status in the community. He needs something to make him stand out while playing an effective role for his team. Something a bit more interactive for the little scout personally.

Only Play DariusNov 17, 20153 votes

Make his spec ops skin throw a flashbang that turns the rest of the screen white

ModWulf HelhammerNov 16, 20152 votes

If they removed Quinn's (old) blind, which was a much less toxic ability, then they can remove teemo's (or at least make it a damn skill shot)

Blue KaoziNov 16, 20155 votes

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If they removed Quinn's (old) blind, which was a much less toxic ability, then they can remove teemo's (or at least make it a damn skill shot)

On the PBE they're giving Quinn her blind back, but it works like Grave's smokescreen now http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

Only makes sense that they'd follow it with a similar change for teemo

ModWulf HelhammerNov 16, 20152 votes

That's what I said

kaltenashesNov 16, 20152 votes

NO NO NO NO, dont screw with his blind, they screwed quinn's alredy

RolldembonesNov 17, 20152 votes

Oh please no more evilness for teemo. I have a friend that's been playing since LoL launched. She is a Teemo main with about 3000 Teemo games. She is a friend so I don't hold it against her.

I have seen things that a Teemo with 3k games can do, the horror. I swear one game in season 3 she planted a shroom on the other teams well and got a double kill.

Most of those games the group of us were on Skype. We already laugh uncontrollably over her Teemo antics, adding too it would be more then we can take :(.

ChewbaccasRearNov 17, 20151 votes

Wait, she put a shroom on the enemy's fountain? They don't get destroyed by the guardian? I might start doing that too if I get ahead enough as Teemo.

RolldembonesNov 17, 20151 votes

It was a while ago, I'm not sure what she did. I think someone else helped.

NiaphimNov 16, 20151 votes

Good idea, it makes sense. These abilities both share the same logic.

PennsNov 16, 20151 votes

If you wanted to make Teemo the most broken champ in the game, maybe kek.

AndrionarNov 16, 20151 votes

First of all making teemo's q in to blindness would be to op, becouse its not a skillshot, you cant miss or avoid it as an apponent. Comparing to graves w, people would start crying for no counter play to teemo's q.

GigglingAngelNov 17, 20151 votes

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First of all making teemo's q in to blindness would be to op, becouse its not a skillshot, you cant miss or avoid it as an apponent. Comparing to graves w, people would start crying for no counter play to teemo's q.

Except Grave's "skill shot" is incredibly easy to land and has a pretty wide space that effects everyone inside it.

What's more, no one calls Graves OP for his ability to blind anyone. People saying that this would be OP are ... stupid.

AndrionarNov 17, 20151 votes

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Except Grave's "skill shot" is incredibly easy to land and has a pretty wide space that effects everyone inside it.

What's more, no one calls Graves OP for his ability to blind anyone. People saying that this would be OP are ... stupid.

It would fit to teemos kit to well, thats why it would be to op.. You should take your words back about me.

Whimsy SpookNov 16, 20151 votes

Or make it so his blind erases him (and maybe team-mates, but that would be OP) from the blinded guys sight. That way there could be some cool plays involving his stealth mechanic.

Son Olivia HyeNov 17, 20151 votes

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Or make it so his blind erases him (and maybe team-mates, but that would be OP) from the blinded guys sight. That way there could be some cool plays involving his stealth mechanic.

oh that sounds like a nice idea should probably change the name to hallucination.

runedaraNov 17, 20151 votes

They should get rid of his blind so he could have more power added to his kit. But people would cry about it too much even if it made him better.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 17, 20151 votes

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Change Teemo's Q so you can't see anything like when your in Grave's W.

Welp, there goes countering Tryndamere in a 1v1 situation.

Samflash3Nov 17, 20151 votes

Yeah, no. Considering it is a point click spell, he'd become a true terror top lane. With him spamming it every few seconds, you won't be able to see any CS or jungle ganks of the sort.

TL: DR - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Son Olivia HyeNov 17, 20151 votes

Ok instead of making his q a point and click skill make it a skill shot like what they did to Ryze's Q.

ChewbaccasRearNov 17, 20151 votes

I rather they don't change Teemo's Q, and honestly for one reason alone. I love blinding Yasou when I'm playing Teemo, not going to lie, when it comes to Yasou call me the Dead Sea because I'm filled with Salt, yes he has the windwall but if you wait for him to all in on your team, and try to save it until after he uses his wind wall then it puts a momentary end to his Crits