FIX FIDDLESTICKS.

OatheSworn··2 votes·836 views

Two sentences. Fiddlesticks mid. Fix that broken garbage now.

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Ratpie2 votes

Just tried Fiddle top. Got vs Teemo both times. Who would have thought there is something that can outcancer teemo? Went 7/0 and 5/0 vs Teemo. He really is counterable and really lacks in late game. I think he is fine. He is just very hard to farm against early.

OatheSworn1 votes

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Just tried Fiddle top. Got vs Teemo both times. Who would have thought there is something that can outcancer teemo? Went 7/0 and 5/0 vs Teemo. He really is counterable and really lacks in late game. I think he is fine. He is just very hard to farm against early.

Uh, I think you misunderstood what I meant. You going 7/0 and 5/0 proves my point and late game he isn't as strong as he was early or mid game but his ultimate is still extremely dangerous combined with the silence that bounces 7 or so times. His ultimate is easily a fight changer and once he ults in and zhonyas, there's nothing really you can do except run out of range because his team is likely going to jump on that opening.

Ratpie1 votes

Ya but there are so many champs that can do the same thing with more bonuses. Orianna has AoE ult and hers is a CC that does instant damage. Anivia's ult is a massive slow and you can cast it every few seconds. Malph's is a CC. Kennan gets a stun, and he is much faster. Liss, Brand, Amumu, Katarina, Ziggs, Karthus. They all do AoE but better (except maybe Ziggs, I feel like his ult is super dodgeable and it tickles). Fiddle needs items to make his have slow or keep him alive, while many others don't. So I don't think he needs a nerf. Quite honestly I can delete people so much easier with Anivia than I can with Fiddle.

What he gives his team in early game, they pay for it in late.

OatheSworn1 votes

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Ya but there are so many champs that can do the same thing with more bonuses. Orianna has AoE ult and hers is a CC that does instant damage. Anivia's ult is a massive slow and you can cast it every few seconds. Malph's is a CC. Kennan gets a stun, and he is much faster. Liss, Brand, Amumu, Katarina, Ziggs, Karthus. They all do AoE but better (except maybe Ziggs, I feel like his ult is super dodgeable and it tickles). Fiddle needs items to make his have slow or keep him alive, while many others don't. So I don't think he needs a nerf. Quite honestly I can delete people so much easier with Anivia than I can with Fiddle.

What he gives his team in early game, they pay for it in late.

So with your example of Orianna, in a teamfight I'd prefer Fiddlesticks ultimate every time unless I have a Yasuo on my team. Fiddle ultimate popping in middle of teamfight is huge, and the radius is larger than Orianna's. The damage also is quite a bit higher. Anivia's ultimate is nice and I don't have much to say about that one other than that Fiddle's still deals more damage. Lissandra ult is strong but to me, it's not on par with Fiddle. Brand's ultimate is strong but the damage is, again, not as much as Fiddlestick's. As for Amumu's ultimate I have nothing to say for it, it has large radius, stun, and damage. Katarina's is easily taken out with a displacement or stun and Karthus ultimate can be canceled, spell shielded or Zhonya'd. The thing with Fiddlestick ult is that using Zhonya like that to dodge the ultimate is usually a huge mistake because the rest of your team will likely be running away, and the moment you are vulnerable again, the enemy team will pile on you. Karthus ultimate is very strong but while he is casting, he can't do anything else and is likely ulting from somewhere reasonably far from the teamfight so that he isn't attacked or CC'd.

And yes, Fiddlestick is not as big of a problem late game but he is still a HUGE nuisance. He will just constantly cast silence or fear and killing him will be more difficult than it should be. The only thing you can do to avoid this is either CC, silence, or instantly killing him.

BIue Monk1 votes

Fiddlesticks in late ?!? Late is 4v5 with Fiddlesticks in your team... You just have to peel his ultimate and you win the game, it's very very easy, everything is made to counter Fiddle in that League Of Legends game. Buying MR against Fiddle is EXTREMELY efficient. Why ? Because it will completely negate his burst damage, and after the burst, Fiddle stands there like a creep and you can win the game peacefully :)

ZephyrDrake2 votes

"fix" as in make him be good? or nerf his mid lane? or what? because i don't see him needing any sort of nerfs in the slightest

OatheSworn1 votes

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"fix" as in make him be good? or nerf his mid lane? or what? because i don't see him needing any sort of nerfs in the slightest

If you think that him using a drain on a minion every few seconds to restore his health at such a low mana cost is still not enough for him to get a nerf, I don't know what is.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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If you think that him using a drain on a minion every few seconds to restore his health at such a low mana cost is still not enough for him to get a nerf, I don't know what is.

well if you just let him drain a minion to restore his health then that's on you and not him. Fiddle is nowhere near a strong champion and actually needs helps. If you cannot handle a weak champion that is being played in a role he is not even suited for then i don't know what to say

OatheSworn1 votes

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well if you just let him drain a minion to restore his health then that's on you and not him. Fiddle is nowhere near a strong champion and actually needs helps. If you cannot handle a weak champion that is being played in a role he is not even suited for then i don't know what to say

Do you seriously think that I just sit there while he drains? No, toss a Q and if able, WEQ. Still doesn't matter, he heals more than I can deal damage for. If i took the shadow he would fear and silence me then walk away only to drain on another minion a few seconds later. So what do you expect me to do and you say "not suited for"? He fits mid just fine, better than you are insinuating.

YuGiHo1 votes

lol i just read the title and thought u were talking about jungle so i came in just to say that he is actually a pretty decent mid.

BIue Monk2 votes

I don't think so. He has good winrate only because his (1) "Playerbase Average Games Played" is the highest in the whole game, way higher than the 2nd (cf champion.gg), and his (2) "Play Rate" is low. In other words, (1) the only people that plays him are Fiddlesticks OTP mains with very high number of game and champion knowledge ; (2) People aren't used to fight him @ mid, but actually he is pretty easy to control.

By example : I have more than 3k games with Fiddle...

Ahri Baka1 votes

I remember when I play lanes vs him , one of the real tragic lanes I had , glad Fiddle mid isn't popular , or I'll be really doomed I remember when he came to lane a bit late , and pushed his lane to my tower with a single ability and made lose 3 minions to the tower and then he spams his perma low mana cost poke to finish me off when he wants

Nut on my Butt1 votes

Be glad you weren't around for AP Yi. He literally oneshot the entire minion wave with a single ability that could also chunk you down for a lot of dmg if you got too close to the wave, and if he ever got low on hp he could just meditate under tower and heal his entire hp bar.

Then in teamfights, he would just wait until someone got low, pop ult and reset alpha strikes.

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