...yet when 
ultis her plants 
s or ball just happen to land near them and they die almost instantaneously.
Edit : I dont expect to really need invulnerable plants if hit by her ulti but maybe it should give them twice as much as health or something. Right now it feels unrewarding hitting your plants with your ulti cause they die in like 2 secs.
Veraska4 votesTo be fair, zyras plants act independently of zyra so the counterplay to them is kill the plants, illaois only attack with her W (or if there's a vessel nearby) so the counterplay is kill illaoi so the tentacles stop attacking
I get what your saying but they have different mechanics that you shouldn't ignore
GrReaper961 votesYeah i get that but currently in a teamfight even if i place them nobody really tries to kill them cause they tend to just die getting hit by aoe spells. Maybe just increasing their health if they get hit by R would be sufficient
Angry Monster2 votesone is melee, conditioned on how many enemy are around her and cast on her self.
The other is range, not on self cast, can self position seedlings, is a HARD CC.
I can totally see why you would want to compare the 2 abilities on 2 very different champs... KAPPA
GrReaper961 votesOne deals tons of aoe damage and usually has about 3-4 our during a teamfight
The other does minimal damage, single target and usually has 2 out in a teamfight (not talking about the ultis about the plants/tentacles)
They seem pretty comparable to me
Photos of Ghosts2 votesAnd 
can get his R turret picked up by 
5050BS1 votesYep Its is something that should be fixed in Zyra's update
OverpoweredSoap1 votesZyra also applies damage from a safer distance and has better disengage/cc overall.
Her plants need changes, but they don't need to be invulnerable.
Chaotic Reks1 votesand illaoi can take a teammate out of fights for almost 2 whole minutes
GrReaper961 votesYeah i get that but currently in a teamfight even if i place them nobody really tries to kill them cause they tend to just die getting hit by aoe spells. Maybe just increasing their health if they get hit by R would be sufficient
Quepha1 votesI am totally OK with different abilities from different champions working differently.
GrReaper961 votesIm not saying they should work the same im just saying that illaois tentacles actually function in a teamfight while zyras plants mostly dont
Quepha1 votesIm not saying they should work the same im just saying that illaois tentacles actually function in a teamfight while zyras plants mostly dont
I think their power is fine. Even a worst case scenario where the enemy has aoe abilities, they still have to generally use two cooldowns just to kill your pets even though your cc is way more valuable to your team anyways.
GrReaper961 votesYeah but can like throw her Q + W + E at your front line and your plants and lost like 2/3 of their health without even aiming at them
throws in her ball for a Q + W + R at your teammates and all your plants die suddenly.
Qs in your team and all your plants dissapear
The problem is that they dont even have to aim your plants they will die anyways. And yes all these cases have happened quite a lot.