So are Skarner's spires never getting removed?

Ralanr·Jan 20, 2017·43 votes·2,111 views

Cause the extra objective isn't really all that fun to play against.

28 Comments

SukishooJan 20, 20179 votes

Not until they do another Rework XD

Seriously they did mention that he failed so, they will need to look at him in the far off future to do something better.

Glory ln DeathJan 20, 20171 votes

In the State of Gameplay blog, Meddler mentioned that they'll be working on mini-updates like the ones for Alistar and Shyvanna more frequently. They might do one for Skarner to change the spires passive.

SukishooJan 20, 20171 votes

Yeah that's true. He could be a good one for one of those updates.

OleandervineJan 20, 20177 votes

They mentioned last year that they'd try to look at him and reduce their need/impact in the game to some degree so it wasn't a 10 man engagement to keep Skarner in or out of power. I'd wager if he ever gets a full VGU, they'll be gone. They were possibly one of the stupidest kit ideas added to the game.

khorneyJan 20, 20171 votes

thsi skarner is weak as fck compared to the prerework one. I liked the old one becuase he was stronger then he is now...so what if your ganks are a little easier who cares and i say a little becuase you still need to hit ur e, atleast before suer it would be good but wasnt all that necessary because of how his q and passive worked. i still dotn understand how people argue he has good object control this and that cool his passive is glorified dominion awesome, ohh he gains attack speed umm guy his old q did the exact saemthing soooooo how is that even a arguement i will never knoiw

SociopathFriendJan 21, 20171 votes

I dunno about 'stupid'. In theory it makes sense. You have a champion primarily played in the jungle and his lore is all about protecting crystals. Said champion is also considered very boring and lacking in counterplay.

So- kill all the birds with one stone. Put crystals in the jungle to help provide something to play with, gives him some counterplay, and sticks with his lore.

HawkefireJan 21, 20172 votes

The champion was never based around securing objectives. Yes, he was a jungler so securing objectives is definitely part of the list of junglers responsibilities, but he was always first and foremost a ganker. His objective control is awful when compared to the likes of Nunu or even Cho, who are both junglers that are centered more around securing objectives, and his objective control (even with their attempt at pigeonholing him into that role) is on par if not worse than farming junglers such as shyvanna and udyr.

This is why the passive fails so horribly on Skarner, he never has been centered around getting objectives other than yanking that ADCs booty straight into your teammates arms. Objectives are more of an afterthought for Skarner and always were, and even now they kind of are. The only catch is now he has a bunch of his power tied up in a very conditional and shitty passive that he has very little control over and cannot be balanced.

Either his passive is complete horseshit and doesn't do anything, thus allowing him to actually be useful against his opponents while he isn't in it and thus he is essentially a champion without a passive. Or the passive needs to be so strong that he completely obliterates anyone that is stupid enough to even think of stepping foot into his incredibly obvious control zones, and then when he isn't in his passive he ends up completely useless.

WAP JookayJan 20, 20177 votes

But... it's ORIGINAL okay ? That's what truly matters Kappa

idontgiveabotherJan 21, 20171 votes

nonono to be original you must have %hp damage and an overloaded kit to be original

EndlessIsolationJan 21, 20173 votes

Not really fun to play with either... they put too much power into them.

SettDownShutUpJan 21, 20172 votes

Him and Mordekaiser.

OurLestradeJan 20, 20171 votes

Unlikely.

LostFr0stJan 20, 20171 votes

It's as Oleandervine said. He's in the spot where he could use the attention, of course, but there's a lot of other champs that need attention more than he does right now.

khorneyJan 20, 20171 votes

its dominion. i post how weak this skarner is and give legit reasons as to why he is weaker then he was before but nope. Umm he could clear faster before he could split push stun whole teams if you bought hydra

QuephaJan 20, 20171 votes

I doubt it, they'd probably instead look to make them more interesting/fun

OrangesilkJan 20, 20171 votes

Yeah, it isn't all that impactful either, only if he gets ahead. Right now this meta doesn't even favor Skarner since it's all about that fast push bot so jungle fighting in front of objectives isn't all that common. The team that scored kills in botlane just takes dragon for free.

Blue Moon WolfJan 21, 20171 votes

They don't plan on it now cause he's not game breaking with them as of now, but did express how they don't like the spires as much as they thought they would since they just make things more tedious for everyone involved. Though since Riot decided he's a Vanguard now, he will likely be updated for the Vanguard update and if they do, those spires are very likely going to be the first thing to go. Just have to wait and see (tm)

ModRowanstarJan 21, 20171 votes

Skarner also needs a vgu.

DengedenJan 21, 20171 votes

Why would we, he's fine.

IceKingChernobogJan 21, 20171 votes

He's already garbage from the repeated nerfs he got a while back, why remove he thing that makes him sorta relevant in matches.

Variks the LoyalJan 21, 20171 votes

My only wish is for him to remain a Juggernaut, not turn into a Vanguard.

He's always had the Juggernaut duelist playstyle, and it's what I love so much.

SennaFirstPickJan 21, 20171 votes

i actually really like the spikes, but they are so overloaded that trying to do something out of them is basically impossible.

SEKAIJan 21, 20171 votes

Those spires have functions?

Always thought they're cosmetic.

PredatoratorJan 21, 20171 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/T5MTYIIt-followup-skarner-juggernaut-update

As You can see, there was actually the intention to followup on Skarner's situation. As to what happened to that so announced work.....i don't know. I kept asking, posting my overview on Skarner, but nothing. Clearly he needs a mini gameplay update a la shyvana, to at least lessen the dependence between skarner and those spires.

Ariel the CruelJan 21, 20171 votes

They were already removed from Crystal scar!

. . . I'm sad now.

StoryDuckJan 21, 20171 votes

Taric I like them.

ElishevaJan 21, 20171 votes

It's not that bad. Gives junglers something to do in their downtime while waiting for camps to rewpawn, now that farming camps doesn't give you enough exp to matter on it's own.