The 15 Minute Mark

Itankyou··1 votes·458 views

Let's discuss the 15 minute mark, there are some things that have been annoying me lately when it comes to surrendering before 20 mins that I actually think makes games Longer than before the original surrender at 20. First, there is the obvious /ff at exactly 15 mins, which means that the next surrender is at 18 mins --> 21 mins = 1 minute longer than original 20 min surrender. Add to this, there are 4 other players on your team who are probably tilted off their rocker at this point.

Out of about 20 games of ff at 15, let's assume that 1 game ends at 15 mins (a generous assumption) --> 20 games at 1+ extra minutes to save 5 mins in one game? Getting 4 other random people to agree on ff at 15 is next to impossible, now it is ff at 21+.

If you are like me, you probably get this 'gut' feeling when you know that there are certain personalities on your team or certain situations where there is no way no matter how long the game goes on that you are going to win this match or that even if you could it would take 50+ mins and you would much rather move onto the next game.

I would suggest that a new ff at 18 is implemented where you can vote ff after every 3 minutes after the 18 minute mark (similar to the original ff @ 20). Also, if someone ff's at 16, they should still be able to ff at 18 and allow a 4/5 vote to pass. I hate it when one troll gets to waste the time of others; by giving trolls the opportunity for more troll-ish behaviour, the game is becoming more frustrating and toxic than it could otherwise be.

Tell me what you think of my solution or if you think there is a better solution or think there is no problem at all.

Also, overall, do you think that games are too long and would this change help with your overall enjoyment of the game?

Keep it Classy,

9 Comments

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

...You can't just wait one minute to ff@20?

Itankyou2 votes

No I definitely can, it just adds to the frustration though because I generally know where the game is going around 14 mins in and under the old system it was easier to surrender.

I'm just saying that the new system has made things more frustrating (in terms of the ability to troll because you know some people get off on it, example, Martin Shkreli) than not and I think it could be improved with a few small changes.

Also it's one minute every game, not just one minute.

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

That's assuming that every game is a complete stomp where you need to ff though. Keep in mind people also throw quite often, especially in low elo.

Itankyou1 votes

No where did I assume that everygame requires an ff, one can not obtain elo this way. Just when it is obvious.

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

Even when it appears obvious, you can still win. :p Besides, if Riot made the surrender option too spammable, trolls would just keep trying to ff every single minute and it would just clutter the screen.

Itankyou1 votes

I would prefer that to being held hostage by a troll

Itankyou1 votes

I think you meant ff@21

The Deckowner1 votes

If there is 1 person who refuse to surrender, all you need to do is not vote and let the surrender vote hang there, and then vote after 20 minutes.

Itankyou1 votes

I would love to take control of the other 4 players on my teams accounts so I could not ff before 20 but unfortunately I can't and even if I could it would be against the summoner's code.

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