Sion: What do you max first?

ModCaptainMårvelous·Oct 9, 2014·2 votes·6,283 views

I'm just curious because (Still using the old icon?) is a bit of a confusion for me. Still, here's basically what I came up with:

Max Q if....

You're in lane against someone you can land it on easily.
Split-pushing and/or wave clear.
You like big numbers

Max W if...

You're tanking more than you're doing damage
You stack a lot of HP items early.
AoE damage without relying on a knock-up.

Max E if...

You jungle and you gank a lot.
Hard to pin down enemies.
High armor targets.

So what do you guys primarily think? What's your opinion on maxing Sion's skills in lane, jungle or otherwise?

9 Comments

7ha7guy777Oct 9, 20141 votes

E minion cannon use minions to clear minion waves haven't tried him against people yet because i noticed unusually high pings when using him against bots might try ap sion just to see if ap poke sion is viable

redniwediSOct 9, 20141 votes

I personally scale his W first. I don't know if others find it this way, but Sion is rather weak to early ganks. I want all the protection I can get while I farm up for the mid game.

MarenjiiFeb 3, 20151 votes

Max E almost always for me. Great waveclear, great poke, spammable, and good slow. Also provides good armor shred if the person wants to go toe to toe with you.

COWmanLordFeb 3, 20151 votes

I typically max q first if I am in a lane where I can hit it. This will normally be against a melee champ or just someone who is bad at dodging it. If the enemy champ is ranged or just too mobile to reliable hit with q I max e first. I would really never max w first as it massively reduces your damage even if you build full tank. In jungle pretty much max q every game as it gives you the best clear speed.

ABlueQuakerFeb 3, 20151 votes

I thought the pros usually maxed W and E. As for your statement about maxing W - you'd want Armor and MR, not HP. If you get resistances it increases the effective strength of the shield.

Generally by mid game you want W Maxed and 2-3 points in E. This provides Utility and Team Fight Impact whereas your Q provides a knockup/slow regardless of what level it is.

Put it this way, W and E scale with levels - Q scales with items.

DryditchFeb 3, 20151 votes

Max Zilean's W first, then add the sixth point. That will allow you to go back and learn the real Sion.

Zombie man is best played in jungle with shield maxed first.

SquishyArchonFeb 3, 20151 votes

I always max E first. The boosted damage off crashing a minion into someone is pretty insane. As people have mentioned it's spammable and provides acceptable amounts of CC. Also it's your cheapest mana spell so that's a huge pro too since Sion can easily struggle to keep his mana up if he's trading in lane. Give it a shot, you'll be surprised how effective it is.