1 in 6 games I have to face an IBG Ezreal that Qs from fog of war and arcane shifts every 4 seconds.
EDIT: anyone saying that Ezreal damage is incomparable to that of other ADCs, please look at this http://champion.gg/champion/Ezreal
Most damage, least deaths. Both due to his it and item build.
Tyrone Lannister14 votesIts so obnoxious
Kaioko7 votesThe best way to deal with an ezreal going blue build is simply to get a tanky champion with a hard engage. Malphite is a perfect example. The issue with that build on Ezreal and why I usually hate having it on my team is the fact that although it has decent poke, he cannot deal with tanks during a team fight which is what ADC usually offer and why they're needed over assassins and burst damage dealers.
Anonagon3 votesIf the Ezreal is one who realizes he can autoattack, he actually shreds tanks because he has insane attack speed and always builds BotRK and Lord Dom's
Kaioko3 votesYou would think but I've seen even the best Ezreal not be able to deal with a comp that had 2 or more tanks. Also that's the point of hard engages. He doesn't have time to rack up the 50% bonus attack speed (which isn't actually that much compared to the other ADCs attack speed steroids.
Anonagon3 votesIts 70% attack speed (plus 20% if you bother to E into your W), and a good Ezreal stacks it up before a fight breaks out, because its super easy to stack and maintain. And a constant 70% attack speed steroid is huge, because most ADC steroids are heavily windowed.
And if he has good reaction times, his E is a good counter to most hard engages. If there's a Vi or Warwick or something though, then Ezreal actually feels the pain.
Rivuo3 votesYou would think but I've seen even the best Ezreal not be able to deal with a comp that had 2 or more tanks. Also that's the point of hard engages. He doesn't have time to rack up the 50% bonus attack speed (which isn't actually that much compared to the other ADCs attack speed steroids.
If you land a skill on a minion you get the passive.... its not hard to rack up at all...
Dengeden1 votesThat means he either used his ult or his team is letting him stack it and he gets pushed in, giving the enemy team priority over objectives.
laughup024 votesIf the Ezreal is one who realizes he can autoattack, he actually shreds tanks because he has insane attack speed and always builds BotRK and Lord Dom's
While this is true (srsly, people who don't AA as Ezreal tilt the heck outta me), he is still one of the worst ADCs at taking down tanks.
Anonagon4 votesExcept he isn't. His kit, playstyle, and natural build path all lean themselves into dealing incredibly well with tanks, despite his lack of a clear tank-killing steroid. The only ADCs who are clearly better than Ezreal at killing tanks 100% of the time are Kog and Vayne (I'd also say Kalista if she weren't dumpster-tier right now).
Seriously, no other ADC naturally tends to build into items that deal effectively with tanks. His build path naturally bypasses the two most effective anti-ADC items, Randuin's and Thornmail, by not being dependent on crit for damage, and instead relying on Muramana. He also tends to buy BotRK, and tends to buy Lord Dom's earlier than other ADCs, both of which mean he is more effective at taking down tanks than ADCs who tend to opt into BT or DD for lifesteal. His incredible attack speed steroid means that he is applying the BotRK and Muramana procs at insane rates, and his E and the effective range provided by his Q mean that Ezreal has a lot less downtime than other ADCs.
laughup023 votesExcept he isn't. His kit, playstyle, and natural build path all lean themselves into dealing incredibly well with tanks, despite his lack of a clear tank-killing steroid. The only ADCs who are clearly better than Ezreal at killing tanks 100% of the time are Kog and Vayne (I'd also say Kalista if she weren't dumpster-tier right now).
Seriously, no other ADC naturally tends to build into items that deal effectively with tanks. His build path naturally bypasses the two most effective anti-ADC items, Randuin's and Thornmail, by not being dependent on crit for damage, and instead relying on Muramana. He also tends to buy BotRK, and tends to buy Lord Dom's earlier than other ADCs, both of which mean he is more effective at taking down tanks than ADCs who tend to opt into BT or DD for lifesteal. His incredible attack speed steroid means that he is applying the BotRK and Muramana procs at insane rates, and his E and the effective range provided by his Q mean that Ezreal has a lot less downtime than other ADCs.
The thing is, most ADC's (with a few exceptions like you noted Kalista) at 6 items are still better at taking down tanks than Ezreal 6 items, even if it's only by a bit.
I didn't say it in my post and I probably should of, but you're correct that Ezreal spikes against tanks faster than other ADC's do, and like 4-5 items between the two ADC's, Ezreal is indeed better than a lot of ADC's during that time at taking down tanks.
However, no matter how you look at it, 6 items many ADC's vs 6 item Ezreal, they are just better, even if it's just by a little bit. Crits don't do much vs tanks without Lord Dominiks sure, but as soon as they get their items they just do so much dmg.
Just to make sure I'm clear: I'm NOT saying Ezreal is bad at taking down tanks (pretty sure you already saw that), he's heavily underestimated and how well he can take them down. Just saying from a 6 item COMPARISON, he's one of the weaker ones, even tho he deals with them quite well.
Also, people overexaggerate tbh on how bad Ezreal is against tanks. He isn't. I hope my post made sense there? I was kind of rambling.
Anidan3 votesAs someone who played Ezreal a lot, unless something changed: of the ADCs, he's probably still the worst at killing tanks. He builds traditionally anti-tank items, but his damage is still low compared to other ADCs if he's going blue. 70% attack speed is pretty great, until you remember that he's putting most of his spending budget into being able to use his abilities more often and making his Q as potent as it can be, without making his auto-attacks hurt like hell. When it comes to taking down tanks, I'd probably rather have any other ADC (barring maybe Kalista, but that's due to her state of balance more than anything).
If Ezreal is going blue build, he's not getting the multiplicative damage of other ADCs, and that's why he can't deal with them very well outside of some contrived 1v1. Other ADCs melt tanks because they get that armor pen, on top of crits, high attack speed and high AD. Ezreal is mostly just investing in armor pen and some AD so he can spam his abilities harder. 70% attack speed doesn't make up for the deficit he's acquired in terms of raw damage compared to other ADCs. BotRK is good at taking down tanks, as is Lord Dominick's Regards.. but other ADCs are also going to buy LDR in addition to their mulitiplicative damage, and BotRK loses damage as the enemy gets closer to death, which other ADCs don't have to deal with.
Ezreal isn't terrible at killing tanks, but he's not good at it, either. Even worse if he goes blue build, and especially when compared to other ADCs that have better steroids and build more for taking them out in the first place. It's not even "by a bit", most ADCs are just that much better than him at killing tanks... because that's not Blue Ezreal's goal. If a tank or bruiser gets on his face and can stay there, it's over for Ezreal. He lacks the damage to fight them off. However, if he can maintain his range, he will bombard you with poke until you have to leave the tower or lane. His all-in isn't very strong as Blue Ezreal (especially at 6 items compared to other champions), and his build isn't meant for an incredibly strong all-in. He's all about that poke, and a tank with items won't give a shit about your poke when he's ready to engage because you need more than poke to kill one or two tanks.
He's not the worst at killing tanks, but overall he's still not great at taking them out. He lacks the raw damage throughput to really be effective against them, which leads to him also struggling against any bruiser that can reliably stay on him.
DoktorKaiser2 votesWhat kills tanks is crit+attackspeed or armorpen+attackspeed build (and of course %hp damage dealers), both of which Blue Ezreal lacks heavily so everything you wrote is a giant pile of garbage honestly...
NodirjonSattarov1 votesEzreal builds BoRK and LDR. Any hard engage is negated by arcane shift. If I can flash a malphite ult 70% of the time, it shouldn't be hard for an ezreal to arcane shift a malphite ult. I see where you're getting at though. An actually ezreal is perfect for hard engages compared to other ADCs. I am Kog'Maw main with over 450 games alone on kog this season and I will always freak out if I don't get a Zac or Malphite ban. Ezreal and Lucian are perfect for nearly any situation.
Kaioko2 votesI'm not saying you target the ezreal in that situation as malphite. I'm saying you don't give his team the time to simply just poke. My point is you get in their faces and your ADC will be able to dish out much much more damage than theirs. I play Ashe, Sivir, Cait, MF, Jinx to name a couple and all of them will do so much more consistent damage than Ezreal once the fight actually starts.
It is true that Ezreal might survive but his team will still lose the fight.
Calypsa2 votesThe best way to deal with an ezreal going blue build is simply to get a tanky champion with a hard engage. Malphite is a perfect example. The issue with that build on Ezreal and why I usually hate having it on my team is the fact that although it has decent poke, he cannot deal with tanks during a team fight which is what ADC usually offer and why they're needed over assassins and burst damage dealers.
Was just about to say this lol. If you are having this much trouble against a blue build Ezreal, then you may be playing against him completely wrong. I find that most people just run away while an IBG Ez q's them, making it impossible for you to win the fight because he has the slow. What you need to do is instantly turn on him, especially if he uses E aggressively. Kaioko is right though, heavy engage tanks and burst mages/assassins are the best way to deal with an Ezreal (or any adc for that matter). You just have to play the match up correctly. Remember though, not every match up is equal. If you play the same champion and expect to win every game no matter the enemy laner then you're in for a salty surprise.
Try playing ADC's such as Draven, Vayne, Sivir, Cait, and maybe even Corki cause of his long range poke. The most important thing while fighting an Ezreal is that you need to dodge his Q. I know sometimes it feels as though you can't dodge it, but you can. You just need to predict. That will mitigate a lot of his damage, and if you're playing someone like Draven, you should be able to throw a couple axes on him and he'll die late game.
Best princess EU3 votesNever
not saying that it shouldn't
just that riot won't bother.
I hate my ADC3 votesI personally find Ezreal to be worse than most other ADC, but that's probably because I see ADCs from a different perspective.
The major difference between Ezreal and most ADCs is that Ezreal doesn't need the help of his team to do his job. He's got his own survivability and steroid. There is very little I can do as a support to make an Ezreal stronger. He doesn't need my help to survive and beside Janna's shield and Nami's E, I can't really give him any steroid since he doesn't have burst or hyper like other ADCs.
What I'm saying is that Ezreal can't just mow down a team with a Bio-Arcane Barrage, nor can he Spray'n'Pray a pentakill and he certainly cannot shoot a rocket launcher at your team. That's the major difference.
Ever seen this combo:
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with 
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with 
+ whatever other items
Ezreal can't even come anywhere close to what that combo can do, no matter which support and items you give him.
So yeah, Ezreal is better at solo carrying but other ADCs do a better job with the proper team.
Particulate1 votesHe still puts out the most dps of any adc in the game atm so idk what ur arguement is. Yea a hyper carry adc will perform better with 4 peeling champs, but ezreal will just snowball on ur hyper carry comps at 20 mins when the tear is stacked
Leon Etoile4 votesOnly if he lands every skill shot... he has 4 (E is based on where you lane; despite it auto hitting).
I hate my ADC3 votesCare to show me numbers to back up your claim of Ezreal outputting the most DPS of any ADC?
NodirjonSattarov1 votesAnytime I use hard, raw data people completely ignore it and continue to ramble on about how his damage is negligible compared to other ADCs but here you go http://champion.gg/champion/Ezreal
He has the most dmg and the least deaths. Both due to his kit and build.
I hate my ADC3 votesDamage dealt =/= DPS
Sustain DPS isn't gonna win a team fight unless the enemy purposely allow themselves to get poked to death.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesAt double standard AA range and projectile speed faster than his normal auto attack " Ezreal's Mystic Shot, are generally around 2000." - Meddler this gives you .5 seconds to react at max range. Sure you can bait it out, but what are the chances you're baiting out an ability on a 6.5 second cooldown (further reduced by CDR and consecutive Qs). On top of that, Ezreal's Q costs 28 mana at rank 1 and 361mana at level 1.
If you don't see what I'm getting at, he does have very good DPS. If you comment again, I will continue to give raw data against your argument.
As a Kog'Maw main, I have yet to see a Lulu/Janna wombo combo in my favor because people either want to play too aggressive (Leona, Alistar, Zyra) or play too passive and forget to shield at crucial moments. Also they purchase unimaginable items like Death cap (on janna and lulu) that do little for me besides grant me a better shield.
I hate my ADC3 votesSorry, you get bad supports on your team.
I won't bother explaining you what the terms "sustain", "burst", "DPS", "uptime", "poke" and "misuse of data" means since you will most likely argue about random things or use even more undescriptive data.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesNo, since you seem to have a lot to talk about I would like you to explain each of those things. I will respond to each of those things.
I hate my ADC2 votesSustain: In the case of damage, it is the capacity to provide damage for an extended period or without interruption.
Burst: Again, in the case of damage, it is the capacity to apply a lot of damage in as short a window as possible.
DPS: Damage per second, the amount of damage a unit can apply to an enemy during "uptime".
Uptime: In the case of damage, it is the measure of time in which a unit is actively fighting an enemy.
Poke: The capability to deal damage at different intervals with low risk.
Misuse of data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics
NodirjonSattarov1 votesSustain - In this case, Ezreal has amazing sustain with Q and arcane shift. Allowing consistent damage from a safe distance and an easy escape, no?
Burst- I agree Ezreal isn't that much of a bursty champion with the likes of Lucian and Draven
DPS- I think that with CDR, IBG, and his passive, Ezreal does deliver quite a lot of DPS. AA, Sheen proc, AA, arcane shift, AA. Would that render less DPS given his projectile speed for Q is extremely low and arcane shift procs sheen and delivers an automatic bolt of free dmg.
Uptime - maybe compared to Draven or Cait that life steal out of their ass he isn't as good but cmon, that arcane shift is too good.
Poke - lol
Misuse of data - I don't need you to condescendingly copy and paste shit.
I hate my ADC1 votesWhen I'm talking about uptime I mean against other champions, not monsters. Ezreal has more uptime against champion because of his safety net and poke. This is why he has more overall damage dealt to champion. Because it is spread over his sustain throughout the match.
His DPS is low for the very reason that he is limited by IBG and his Q. They both have a CD, even if they are low (1.5s for IBG and 1.2s for 40% CDR and if you hit the Q itself), they are still far between in a game where you can die in less than a second. At full build, a Kog'Maw deliver close to 2.5 attacks per second and is usually sent to more than one target because of Hurricane. A Kog'Maw autos does more damage per hit on average than an Ezreal Q does, depending on build and target.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesYeah I agree that if he gets too close to Kog'Maw and doesn't have arcane shift, Kog would out damage him by far. Kog right now is complete garbage and I can't seem to get a decent game. The only way I can play Kog is midlane and Riot is planning to nerf that so I don't really know what to do besides vent.
I hate my ADC1 votesFind a support who understand how to play with a Kog'Maw ADC and duo with him/her.
Kog'Maw isn't meant for solo queuing. He's too reliant on his team to do well.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesCan only do so much with Team Recruitment boards but you're right. Will do
DoktorKaiser1 votesYou know what, you are really obnoxious, stop making shit up, honestly I will go rude mode - blue ezreal exists probably longer than you play league, I played him since season 2, he wasnt and never will be fixed because he poses 0 problem and is perfectly balanced and nobody in RIOT is going to sudenly do something because of your useless opinion...
PermabannedGaren2 votesAnytime I use hard, raw data people completely ignore it and continue to ramble on about how his damage is negligible compared to other ADCs but here you go http://champion.gg/champion/Ezreal
He has the most dmg and the least deaths. Both due to his kit and build.
He has the most damage because he has the most poke.
All of the champions who top the damage charts can deal damage at a much farther distance than other champions, even if a champion with shorter range deals more damage.
I assure you that Vayne does much more damage than Ezreal in her threat radius, but her threat radius is much smaller than Ezreal's.
PermabannedGaren3 votesHe still puts out the most dps of any adc in the game atm
He really doesn't, lol. Compare the DPS of a late game Vayne to a late game Ezreal. It's not even comparable.
http://champion.gg/champion/Ezreal
And statistically his win rate falls off a cliff late game.
dunder kill2 votesIt's really god damn annoying. I don't understand why Ez gets fantastic poke, decent AA range, and debatably the best escape in the game. Not only can his arcane shift clear terrain like a jump, but it can also go through things such as Veigar's cage and Cassio's grounded effect that jumps and dashes cannot.
Anonagon2 votesDon't forget that he still does comparable DPS to other ADCs lategame because of his 70% attack speed steroid on his passive and the fact that Muramana actually does obscene amounts of damage.
Anidan4 votes... No he doesn't. Not if he's going blue. Muramana is good and the active does high damage, but it isn't going to make up for the lack of multiplicative scaling.
You're not going to convince me that Blue Ez, even with 70% attack speed, is going to catch up to 
. Hell, I'd even wager that 
and 
do more DPS. DPS isn't Blue Ezreal's goal, and as a result, his isn't as high as other ADCs that actually build toward that goal. And even if he does out-DPS MF and Sivir despite their better build paths toward DPS, they give enough teamfight presence to make up for the fact.
Blue Ez has outstanding poke. His DPS is not outstanding.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesArcane shift is reduced to 14.2 seconds upon obtaining IBG (assuming its at level 1) and is further reduced by consecutive Qs by 1.5 seconds. Combining Qs with the slow, it would take approximately 4 Qs to regain Arcane shift. This isn't hard to achieve when "kiting" backwards. Once the slow is applied, its not difficult to land another.
Eedat3 votesHe maxes E second
Ackelope3 votesi would describe his aa range as average, it's 550, which most champions have. It's actually quite common for an adc to have a range buff or a higher base range, including caitlyn, jinx, kog'maw, to name a few. Not to say his effective range isn't high because of his Q, but since he itemizes for Q damage, his DPS isn't as high as most.
WitchQueen Annie2 votesWhat?
He's the last ADC I want on my team in ranked. He's so unreliable since he has to keep landing skills (just to maintain meh damage); he's liable to miss a bunch of skills in any major team fight and then your team loses your sustained AD fire. You don't want that.
Also, he just always seems to fall off late game no matter how good the player is...
His high damage at the end is almost always from poke, most of it hitting tanks and not in an actual team fight where it results in actual kills.
Ralanr1 votesIs it just me, or does it feel like he has a longer range than he should?
NodirjonSattarov1 votesHis Q range is 200% his normal AA range and does 110% of AD and reduces cooldowns of all spells including Q by 1.5 seconds.
Ralanr1 votesOh. That's the ability I hate.
It always hits me when it looks like it shouldn't.
Supreme Senpai693 votesTo be fair that's where Ezreal's power budget is lol. His W does very little damage and his E is mostly used for repositioning. Ezreal builds for his Q. He builds tear which gives no damage so he can spam Q more, he builds Iceborne which gives no damage so he can peel for himself, and he buys other on hit items for his Q.
If he doesn't land a Q he won't do damage.
Ackelope1 votesto be accurate, his base aa range is 550, and his Q range is 1150, which is actually a little more than double. I am just nitpicking at that point, but it might be nice to know i suppose.
Qiy4na1 votes
i get so triggered when he just e's out of my e
The Deckowner2 votesu mean your w?
I hate my ADC1 votesHe can technically E out of both of them.
Qiy4na1 votesboth