How exactly do we counter Vladimir now?

Glîtchy··5 votes·1,159 views

I don't see how we're supposed to beat vlad now, I mean he gets crit with AP and can dodge turret shots with his blood pool, is there anyway to counter him? and no, I don't play Swain (top counter) because he's INSANELY boring since you just press a few keys and get a triple, no problem.

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resumed5 votes

item 3123 item 3165 summoner 14

Fondling Gems2 votes

Someone with short cd hard cc. He can only pool so often.

Friendly Ram1 votes

Morning wood?

Fondling Gems2 votes

I agree, maokai would be an excellent choice.

;P

Deneviel2 votes

Aatrox Just Outsustain him. item 3155 as core Illaoi Faced 3 Vlad with Illa .... Hard lane till you hit lvl 3/4 then he can just cry as you destoy his Hp bar Jayce You can freely farm ... But he will need proper mastery Malzahar If you want a safe lane Maokai Play smart ... win the lane Swain the lane will be: i can't kill you and you can't kill me. But swain will eventually gets the upper hand Yorick Once he gets his item 3070 i'ts done ... spam E and avoid the empo Q

Real counter:

Fiddlesticks Riven Irelia Malzahar

Glîtchy1 votes

Fiddlesticks I don't play him

Riven straight up boring as fuck just smash your face on the Q key

Irelia Don't have her

Malzahar Don't have him

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

Grievous Wounds and...idk. Im sure someone will think of something but that's my contribution.

Tahyana1 votes

I hold lane against him with Lulu. Build MR. He can't stay as a blood pool for long. You can focus him down. Champs with a silence or a stun could be a pain for him.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

you basically do the same thing you've always done but now you back off when he's glowy or channeling and you go balls deep instead of poking when you wanna actually kill him

nami tf1 votes

Nasus

I've never lost a game against Vlad as him, unless the jungler camps me (f*** you junglers -.-)

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

As a Nasus player, I know that I used to recommend Vladimir as a good pick against Nasus due to his ranged harass (letting him chunk you under tower safely), good durability and sustain (letting him trade with you constantly), reasonable sustained damage, and ability to kite Nasus during duels and teamfights (due to his synergy with Rylai's Crystal Scepter).

I know that when I used to play Vladimir against durable enemies, I would generally rush Hextech Revolver (sustain), Rylai's Crystal Scepter (bulk and kiting) and Void Staff (to negate whatever MR they decided to purchase against me) and it would work out pretty well.

Though, I haven't actually played that match-up (from either side) since 6.9.

I should probably try Vladimir again at some point...

Glîtchy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Roenne ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Xo881K6X,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-06-13T19:21:01.070+0000)

Nasus

I've never lost a game against Vlad as him, unless the jungler camps me (f*** you junglers -.-)

I tried that when I faced him today, he just kept getting AP crits like a little bitch.

nami tf1 votes

If he is the slightest bit passive, and you are good with timing your last-hitting so you don't stay near him for more than two seconds, you can get stacks and start fighting him by 150-200 stacks or before his second back.

Glîtchy2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Roenne ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Xo881K6X,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2016-06-13T20:29:12.078+0000)

If he is the slightest bit passive, and you are good with timing your last-hitting so you don't stay near him for more than two seconds, you can get stacks and start fighting him by 150-200 stacks or before his second back.

I can't just farm under turret, he dives all the time and gets a crit easy.

nami tf1 votes

Stay outside 3/4 of his E range of him and go closer only if his bar thing is down. And if very necessary, Q him instead of the minion.

Glîtchy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Roenne ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Xo881K6X,comment-id=00040001000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-13T20:48:08.664+0000)

Stay outside 3/4 of his E range of him and go closer only if his bar thing is down. And if very necessary, Q him instead of the minion.

We can't see the radius unless we're playing him.

nami tf1 votes

You can guess it though.

Glîtchy1 votes

I'd much rather avoid it completely then guess and get it wrong and be punished for it.

Frankey881 votes

KILL HIM. it usually helps

l Helios l1 votes

Executioner's, Mortal Reminder, Morellonomicon, Ignite.

What heals?

Same applies for Swain actually.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Vladimir/Top

http://champion.gg/champion/Vladimir/Middle

Playing an offensive, AD-based champion seems like a good idea. Which is entirely logical, given that it denies Vlad his supergood Spirit Visage as a first item.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Kindred fight cancer with cancer

ForgiveColour1 votes

People that suggest item 3123 hard counters him are retarded

he needs a straight nerf. Source? IMT VS NRG VLAD casually heals for 1.4k despite 2 grevious wounds items on the other team

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

People that suggest item 3123 hard counters him are retarded

You must be one of those guys who refuse to buy Sightstone as a support.

ForgiveColour1 votes

you must be one of those that doesnt play the game and thinks you know anything

Narvuntien1 votes

Faker goes with Anivia when he faces vlad.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Faker goes with Anivia when he faces vlad.

There's a visible fine line here, we're taking Faker's ability to play ANY champ even when he gets counter picked vs. me a bronze 2, also I don't play Anivia.

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