Yi needs some buffs

BoilTheOil··6 votes·920 views

He is one of the worst junglers right now he just isnt good in anyway and cant carry much unless they have no crowd control. I dont see any reason not to give him some kind of buff maybe to his ultimate or q nobody will see this because a bunch of bronzes will downvote but please buff yi. http://champion.gg/champion/MasterYi

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CR4ZYRONDH4VI5 votes

Can't believe someone thinks this.

BoilTheOil3 votes

uhoh the silver dinklord downvotes me

CR4ZYRONDH4VI3 votes

You downvoted me....lol

BoilTheOil2 votes

you did it first

LaughingStapler4 votes

No, I was just getting used to not feeding on Ziggs... I guess Yi's not as bad as Rengar though. He could use a small buff.

Requiemsfire1 votes

No one wants to see master yi in a good spot though because of how obscenely obnoxious he becomes when he isn't just CC'd and killed on the spot.

It'd have to be an actual rework with a meaningful weakness outside of just CC and hope he dies when we focus him.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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No one wants to see master yi in a good spot though because of how obscenely obnoxious he becomes when he isn't just CC'd and killed on the spot.

It'd have to be an actual rework with a meaningful weakness outside of just CC and hope he dies when we focus him.

Melee, single target-oriented, no utility, etc.

Why are people so uncomfortable with a melee champion actually being a good late game carry? Master Yi does nothing ADCs don't do, only he does it from close range.

Dracocrash1 votes

Master yi can do things adc's cant do.

I think the main reason people hate yi are resets. An out of control yi can roflstomp with resets.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Master yi can do things adc's cant do.

I think the main reason people hate yi are resets. An out of control yi can roflstomp with resets.

And Jinx can't? Jinx actually runs faster than Yi does if she gets a kill, and is ranged.

Requiemsfire1 votes

Master Yi has a point and click untargetable gap closer doing damage over a broad area with an ultimate that enables him to outrun anyone without an MS steroid that refreshes the duration upon getting a kill/assist with a passive that enables him to auto attack 2 more times upon landing 4 auto attacks while dealing true damage and a heal which reduces incoming damage by 50% at the cost of immobilizing him.

The only balance for Yi is one where he CC's and dies if he is less than opportunistic.

With a kit where his only defined strength is being self sufficient and literally running into the enemy team and chasing whatever squishies he can. His play style is simply definitely unhealthy as it is either too strong where he hard carries wiping teams who don't specifically counter him or he isn't strong enough and dies very quickly.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Master Yi has a point and click untargetable gap closer doing damage over a broad area with an ultimate that enables him to outrun anyone without an MS steroid that refreshes the duration upon getting a kill/assist with a passive that enables him to auto attack 2 more times upon landing 4 auto attacks while dealing true damage and a heal which reduces incoming damage by 50% at the cost of immobilizing him.

The only balance for Yi is one where he CC's and dies if he is less than opportunistic.

With a kit where his only defined strength is being self sufficient and literally running into the enemy team and chasing whatever squishies he can. His play style is simply definitely unhealthy as it is either too strong where he hard carries wiping teams who don't specifically counter him or he isn't strong enough and dies very quickly.

And Twitch has a true damage DOT on every auto attack and ability, a stealth that doubles as a speed boost and attack speed steroid, a ranged AOE slow, a burst nuke that can affect an entire team with a click, and an ult that gives him over eight hundred range and lets his auto attacks go through enemies to hit everyone.

Did you think listing what Yi's kit has in it is relevant? Almost any kit can sound broken in a vacuum.

The fact of the matter is that CC dicks Master Yi much harder than it does most other champions, he has no way to actually ignore damage that reaches him unlike someone like Jax or Yasuo (he can only try to avoid it or heal through it), and provides only damage for his team.

He is essentially an ADC, only melee.

Why is he a problem, but ADCs in general aren't?

Dracocrash1 votes

Not the worst jungler.

Yi mains tend to have a 52.5+% winrate. (only in plat + which is your ELO)

Balanced if you ask me.

Also a lot of idiots building botrk on yi, even if the enemy has no hp stacking tanks. Could be 1 reason his overall winrate is low. But yi mains, who know how to build still have a decently high winrate.

I think the only place it would be right to buff him would be a slight increase the base duration of highlander, because it feels too short at the moment.

BoilTheOil2 votes

yea i main yi hes still not very good

Hyperiön1 votes

The reason it is short is because of the duration extension on a kill or assist

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NoganksOnlyFarm ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XiVrpwEO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-09-22T11:24:46.021+0000)

Not the worst jungler.

Yi mains tend to have a 52.5+% winrate. (only in plat + which is your ELO)

Balanced if you ask me.

Also a lot of idiots building botrk on yi, even if the enemy has no hp stacking tanks. Could be 1 reason his overall winrate is low. But yi mains, who know how to build still have a decently high winrate.

I think the only place it would be right to buff him would be a slight increase the base duration of highlander, because it feels too short at the moment.

52.5% isn't good at all for someone maining a champion.

Also, the thing is that if you're not building crit Yi because you don't like being vaporized by anyone with burst late game and you'd prefer an on-hit build, what exactly is a Yi player's choice? He still needs another attack speed item, but with rageblade being turned into poop on a stick he's out of options. Wit's End? Doesn't do any magic damage other than what he'd get from building it. Trinity Force? The sheen is honestly wasted on him because he needs to save his Q (his only ability that could really proc it most of the time) to dodge CC and not for DPS, and it clashes with Black Cleaver for those who build it (I do). It's not an efficient purchase. Nashor's Tooth? Lol yeah right. A crit item like PD? Not as bad, but the crit is sort of wasted if he's not dedicating his build to it.

Yi's not in a good place right now.

Dracocrash1 votes

He's not. Neither are champs like fizz and leblanc. See a pattern here? Riot dumpsters toxic champs.

But theese champs are sufficient enough to climb with, if you are good with them. 52.5% isn't good, but its not downright pathetic right?

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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He's not. Neither are champs like fizz and leblanc. See a pattern here? Riot dumpsters toxic champs.

But theese champs are sufficient enough to climb with, if you are good with them. 52.5% isn't good, but its not downright pathetic right?

Both of those champions when strong can blow someone up using their massive mobility before anyone has the time to react, and then escape using those mobility tools.

Yi will basically do that to almost any champion only if they are alone. In a team fight he has to out-maneuever the front line and properly flank, or he can DPS the front line or any divers that try to dive the back line. It depends. Either method of play has counterplay Fizz and LB lack.

Sasogwa1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NoganksOnlyFarm ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XiVrpwEO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-09-22T11:24:46.021+0000) Also a lot of idiots building botrk on yi, even if the enemy has no hp stacking tanks. Could be 1 reason his overall winrate is low. But yi mains, who know how to build still have a decently high winrate.

Botrk isn't based on bonus HP, so it's not that much better against tanks and it's the item that has the most synergy with Master Yi. Gives him everything he needs. But the fact it is in a weak spot right now doesn't help Yi at all.

Dracocrash1 votes

still, there are better items to pick against a team without hp stackers other thank botrk.

S0kaX1 votes

Somebody played Yi and failed?

BoilTheOil1 votes

i have over 100k mastery on him

S0kaX1 votes

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i have over 100k mastery on him

mastery points mean nothing, I have 50k mastery on kog but I'm still bad at him.

BoilTheOil1 votes

then thats your fault for being bad at him???

S0kaX1 votes

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then thats your fault for being bad at him???

Same with you.

BoilTheOil1 votes

kog is actually a good champion tho

S0kaX1 votes

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kog is actually a good champion tho

I know, I just don't know how to play him, but don't change the subject.

BoilTheOil1 votes

hows that changing the subject

inhumanlol1 votes

So I tested both JG items (item 1419 item 1412 ) with different builds and he is weak AF.

PS. If one gets 2 kills while his ULT is active, it gives him 14sec of awesomeness. Now that is ridiculous. Late game Kill 2+take 2 towers and gg.

BoilTheOil1 votes

yea thats why they make it back to 10 seconds on activation then 4 seconds for each kill he gets its overall much better trust me

inhumanlol1 votes

Reverting his ult to 10sec before kill won't bring his power back but his (E) scaling to total AD will do.

His AD scaling and/or 4th passive hit are both weak. Unless they are changed, he won't get his power back. All said, I don't mind putting some cost to E ( as of now it is no cost).

BoilTheOil1 votes

his e is fine it does enough damage

inhumanlol1 votes

As of now it is just + 25% Bonus AD. Having his E based on total AD means he can build bruiser and still be relevant. I'm not saying item 3124 type, but just bruiser who takes some hits and comes back. Not to forget his E can be cancelled easily ( any soft CC, knockups etc will do it).

BoilTheOil1 votes

the base damage when fully maxed is 50 and when you get a build like item 1419 item 3153 item 3156 item 3742 item 3142 it will do about 100 damage each hit so its enough

Lovelle1 votes

Yi will always be a binary champ by nature of his kit. All buffing him will do is make him more obnoxious for the champs that already have trouble dealing with him.

Hahahahyena1 votes

unless he gets a nerf to either his mobility or his damage he doesnt need a buff

BoilTheOil1 votes

mobility??? he doesn't have much of that besides a little speed up

Hahahahyena1 votes

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mobility??? he doesn't have much of that besides a little speed up

his alpha strike, his movement speed and the speed he gains from items such as ghostblade for example

BoilTheOil1 votes

any champ can get movement speed and his alpha strike isnt really used for the mobility

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