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So how exactly are you supposed to counter-play Vayne?

Rykagnar·12/23/2017, 6:21:59 AM·6 votes·6,984 views

Buy a shit-ton of armor? She doesn't care. Remember her W's passive? Yeah, sorry. Doesn't matter if you have 400 armor, you're practically paper waiting to be shredded.

Burst her? Well that'd be nice, if she didn't go invisible every second, thanks to her Q's immensely low cooldown. Burst means nothing if she presses R, rolls away, auto's you twice and kills you before you can inhale. Oh, and if a few of your teammates manage to die in the attempt to kill her, sucks for you, she just gained more ult time - and you know what that means? More invisibility.

Duel her? Impossible. Her critical strike makes sure you die in about 3 hits anyways, so either you're also a fed Vayne (fighting fire with fire) or you're dead.

Seriously, how the fuck are you supposed to counter-play this ridiculous, broken pile of shit? Even the highly-praised ADC asshole destroyer, Rammus, doesn't stand a fucking chance against her. I wouldn't be complaining if she took an immense amount of skill, but as it's been said numerous times over, right clicking is definitely not skillful; and for a few right-clicks to single-handedly destroy an entire team is both disgusting and unhealthy.

21 Comments

Critmaster Garen12/23/2017, 4:25:13 PM4 votes

you cant counterplay her. her kit is a ball of stats with no way to deny her power or to outplay any part of it.

she doesnt have distinct windows of strength and weaknesses. she doesnt have a game mechanic to her silver bolts that you can play around like garen, and fiora (the only other two champions with max health % true damage), shes not any more positioning dependent than other marksmen (like draven with his axes).

basically her entire kit is a bunch of passive steroids and one or two abilities to outplay you. but nothing you can outplay or play around yourself.

the only thing you can do is either wait for her to make a mistake, which is entirely in the vaynes hands, or counterpick her.

AmetDeCrypt12/23/2017, 7:10:17 AM3 votes

stand behind braum.

she's a duelist, not a teamfigher. have the tank sit on her and the mage or carry blow her up from a distance while she's locked down because her base defenses are so laughably bad she dies instantly.

meowwow712/23/2017, 7:34:19 AM3 votes

we can't help that you were a sion against her

Stryder0312/23/2017, 7:37:42 AM2 votes

Maneuverability and range counter Vayne from an ADC perspective. If you can stop her from snowballing early, and have a tank on the team, she is manageable in the team fight phase. I personally like to play Miss Fortune against her, I harass her with bounces from my Q, and keep the lane frozen at the midpoint. Having a poky range supp really helps as well. If Miss Fortune is banned, then my next pick is Xayah, once again for range and mobility.

If you can maintain a CS advantage while picking up a few kills on her, then late game she is killable in 2-3 hits easily.

D357R0Y3R12/24/2017, 9:30:38 AM2 votes

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Buy a shit-ton of armor? She doesn't care.

Not a single adc cares about your armor twitch will kill you in 5 autos like vayne will kill you in 5 autos even if you're maokai

Vayne's passive just makes a difference on %damage reduction like alistar's ult

if you want to get better on playing against vayne you need to remember to never 1v1 her except as an adc yourself vayne can no longer kill you in 0.5 sec like before, and since they reduced Q damage and increased W damage she deals less damage to squishies before

if you're twitch you can kill her faster than she does, same with draven

if you're not an adc you should not 1v1 her, and wait teamfight for your team to abuse her lack of range

Morally superior12/23/2017, 8:48:02 AM1 votes

Against Vayne: In lane: Poke. All-in. Depending on what support she has. Don't pick a passive support against her if you can help it. Sona, Mf, Draven, Ezreal, Nami, Jhin, Xerath, Brand, anything that keeps her down and makes her regret starting a game.

In teamfights: targeted cc/nukes, or big aoe so that she takes a lot of damage even if it's not necessarily directed at her. Syndra R, Maokai W, Panth W, Rammus' taunt, Flash R W rakan, Lissandra R/W, Nasus' slow and plenty more. Just picking assassins is a mistake, she is too good of a duelist, and with a little bit of help from the team the assassin won't accomplish anything.

Just don't ignore her when she's stealthing, don't waste your skillshots trying to guess where she is. Abuse her Q cd, and murder her.

Sujiren12/23/2017, 9:37:38 AM1 votes

The only tank, that truely counters her is Malphite , he has really high burst for a tank, especially if you buy some spell pen, so he can one shot vayne at almost every stage of the game, unless she gets healed or shielded several times. Also his E, pretty much becomes hard cc vs Vayne, since it cuts her attack speed hard, less attackspeed =less silverbolts, and Q ms steal lets him stay on top of her, even in her stealth, if she is still somehow alive after his engage. So if you see Vayne locked in and your team needs a tank I would play Malphite

If you plan on playing juggernauts, or tanks with telegraphed and outplayable cc, I would recommend banning Vayne out, those type of champions struggle the most vs her.

TehNACHO12/23/2017, 7:46:21 AM1 votes

Gameplay Boards for 100 please Buzz What are hyperboles?

Ok sure but why12/23/2017, 7:05:15 AM1 votes

item 3110 item 3143 seem to make her w less viable

Malphite item 3110 item 3143 will almost halt anyone's attack speed to a near stop for a good amount of time, if you can simply wait for her to Q before ulting in

Gives No Lux12/23/2017, 7:43:43 AM1 votes

item 3110 item 2055

Gall12/23/2017, 7:02:14 AM1 votes

From my personal experience as a Brand main, in lane I counter her by relying on her short range to get off E procs to farm with my spellthiefs, then if she ever chooses to hard engage I E-Q-W + ignite for 5/6 of her HP, then my adc and I win the trade. When facing a vayne as Brand I am only ever concerned about A). Not getting slammed into a wall (=death) or B) the enemy support.

Late game vayne can be countered with any CC really. She blows up easily. Again, as Brand, I stay back near my AD and wait for the team fight, then even one E-Q stun on her means death. Vayne tears tanks up though, that's her niche.

Kaìju12/23/2017, 7:52:33 AM1 votes

A few ways. You either CC her with a tank and have your mage blow her up, or you have two or three frontliners all rotate how close they are so she keeps marking different people and doesn't get to use her W as much. As for winning the game, you have to end before 30 minutes. With how cheap crit is, if the game goes past 30 she probably has IE Shiv and she is gonna start to take over. Panth does okay against her because he's early game with a targeted stun so you can follow up the CC with say a mage or tanks own CC.