Why adc are so strong

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ADC is broken because Leona and ali do too much damage?

Seems legit

ADC aren't broken, adc get massive leads because their support 1 shots the other adc and they last hit for 300 gold. All the clips and whiny posts about getting 1 shot by an adc involve an adc several thousand gold ahead of everyone else.

A glass cannon can't hurt you if you break it.

You can't break it if someone puts a fat shield or CCs you into a comatose state.

[{quoted}](name=Dead flag blues,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XccQaIyE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-05T22:51:58.409+0000)

I guess Janna can hide and make jump every 2sec

Both are useless unless fed, and in the current meta the only way to get fed bot is through your support or jungler.

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1200 gold

2600 gold

3400 gold 3400 gold

2600 gold

vs.

3000 gold 3733 gold 3200 gold 3500 gold

3800 gold 2900 gold 3200 gold 2650 gold

yea, its totally just the supports. gtfo. every time marksmen are obviously overtuned, someone comes around and points the finger at either supports, tanks or junglers. marksmen builds are even cheaper than fucking assassin builds, thats the problem.

Item price argument is invalid. Every adc item you named gives 1-2 stats MAX. Either damage and nothing or damage and a small amount of movespeed. Black cleaver gives ad, hp, armor shred, and has phage which gives movespeed. Ludens gives a ton of ap, movespeed, and more waveclear, triforce gives hp, attack speed, cdr, ad, and the sheen proc, titanic gives hp, ad, waveclear, and the reset with its active, steraks gives hp, ad and a shield when low. Please find a valid argument before you tell me to "gtfo" because nothing you mentioned is at all relevant to the class.

The problem with that argument that everyone ignores is that you're only looking at the price, not what the item does.

For or to be useful, you need at least one zeal item, but usually want two, so that means for the items to come online and start working well and consistently, you need anywhere from 6000g to 8600g. Where with pretty much every other item in the game, the item gives what it needs to work, is a powerspike alone, same with and and they all give more useful stats alone.

Think about it like this - For the Zeal items to be effective, you need AD, so the crits actually do damage, and for IE / ER to be effective, you need the AS and Crit, so you can consistently get the extra crit damage, or the mana back, all of the items suck on their own.

For Black cleaver for an example, you dont need anything else, it gives you the AD, the Armor shred, the HP and the CDR, it serves its purpose alone, ADC items dont.

Also, Assassin builds are about 600-700g more expensive if you get the most expensive assassin items, and they still have an item that deletes people from the game, and its ALWAYS been broken and over loaded - - for 2900g, you can make any ADC (or squishy) not exist if you aren't trash, so yeah, it is the supports LOL

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Idk, I wouldn't say Nami is broken.

She does a shit ton of damage in lane, not as bad as the others but a good nami is aids with an aggressive adc