It May Be Time To Update Teemo

Shuyin178··11 votes·739 views

Disclaimer : This is not any form of salt/tilt and no I am not a Teemo main (I am going to hell, I'm not from there). This is simply observations that has taken place over the last 3 years of me playing the game.

In lower tier play of the game Teemo is just fine gameplay wise, he is an annoying little furry that everyone hates. However, once you start getting into the higher levels of play, Teemo ends up pretty useless. Sure he can still be annoying in lane, pokes with the single most annoying auto attack in the game (seriously, why did they let his poison do so much while Twich does so little?), his shrooms are irritating because there is no way to find them (enhanced red trinket doesn't help if you don't know where to look). The thing though is that outside of lane (and a number of times even in it) he does next to nothing meaningful at all. You have champions that impact the game, champions that make amazing plays, champions that are a total disruption, and then there is just Teemo sitting off to the side of a fight (if his global taunt hasn't gotten him killed by that point) not really having any reason to be in the fight, no reason to be pushing a lane because he can't take towers very fast at all, and has a super boring kit that makes people fall asleep just by using him because he has no actual mechanical play level at all outside of 'auto attack - blind dart - auto attack - auto attack -auto attack' and maybe a shroom toss once in awhile depending on how it is going. I know people hate Teemo, I am also a disliker of Teemo but for a totally different reason. If his kit was actually interesting in any form then maybe he would not get killed so easily and so often (in lane and out of lane) because right now he has no dynamic other than "Furry Satan that hits you with a poison auto attack over and over." Riot has been trying to make each champion fit thematically, but I don't see anything in his kit that would verify him as a scout other than his W's movement speed boost but even that is just boring, at least Shyvana's has a cool looking AOE damage thing when she does it. What do you all think? Is it time that Teemo got his thematic update Riot has been doing with champions for awhile now?

23 Comments

The Deckowner4 votes

A teemo main like me knows that teemo is different than every other champion and has his unique strategy, but for the sake of satan people kept it secret among us teemo mains.

Spoofghoul1 votes

you mean bullying your opponent into uselessness

then building full tank after so everyone attacks you with your global taunt but it's useless because you are tank

Oh and ofc throwing 50 shrooms into baronpit so only your team has acces to it

The Deckowner2 votes

A good teemo knows much more than this, for example w max infinite splitpush.

AttackOnTeemos2 votes

What if I told you, jungle teemo. If anything, Teemo is one of those tactical champs, he limits movements in Jungles, he picks people off during escapes.

Shuyin1781 votes

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What if I told you, jungle teemo. If anything, Teemo is one of those tactical champs, he limits movements in Jungles, he picks people off during escapes.

Ok, but how does he benefit the team 5v5? He can't pick people off if he's dead and he can't just afk while waiting for that kind of thing to happen because he will just get focused for being out of position.

Niyumi3 votes

Well, first off, you don't build glass Teemo -- that's just stupid. Then, you go into a teamfight from behind or the side, and pick off the ADC or APC, and then focus on the next highest damage dealer until just the tanks are left. Then, you do your victory dance as you kite them through mushrooms and slowly kill them.

Plus, his Q prevents ADCs from doing damage, so you dramatically mitigate the damage your team takes.

Shuyin1781 votes

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Well, first off, you don't build glass Teemo -- that's just stupid. Then, you go into a teamfight from behind or the side, and pick off the ADC or APC, and then focus on the next highest damage dealer until just the tanks are left. Then, you do your victory dance as you kite them through mushrooms and slowly kill them.

Plus, his Q prevents ADCs from doing damage, so you dramatically mitigate the damage your team takes.

Except caster ADCs like Lucian Ezreal Corki etc, the blind can be useful for that yes.

Niyumi3 votes

Except Lucian's whole identity is his double shot AA -- which Q stops. Ezreal and Corki you can't really stop, but they're squishy, so if you turn up the pressure on them (and, late game, you're close to an assassin), you can force them out of the teamfight or at least make them turn on you instead -- which you love, since you're Teemo and have a mushroom 2 inches to their right. :P

Plus, if you're smart, you always carry at least one mushroom around, and you can literally throw them on people in a teamfight, getting hefty damage and slows on the entire enemy team.

Llanite2 votes

Many champs fight without their ult, he's as useful as Corki, Cait or any other adc 5v5.

His R provides room to escape/ peel/ poke/ catch out of position people. 2-3 people of the other team will also have to run sweeper and disadvantaged vison-wise.

@16, he can toss shroom from 1 screen away, there is virtually no way you should be out of position planting shroom.

Narasimha2 votes

Many champs fight without their ult, he's as useful as Corki

...Wait, what?

Llanite2 votes

well, that's 2 separate statements :P

He's one of those who can fight without ult AND he functions as adc in teamfight.

SrbLud1 votes

Please stop with jungle teemo...it was a good idea at one point but now it's turning ino a meme....

Niyumi1 votes

Jungle Teemo works fine if you're good with him and at the game in general. In fact, he has really safe, fast clears post-6.

Plus, Sated Devourer makes Teemo that much scarier. :P

Niyumi2 votes

Despite how simple his kit looks, you gotta be good at the game to do things with Teemo -- same applies for a lot of champions, actually. I play Teemo and carry games (assuming my team doesn't feed to all hell); I can hop into teamfights easily (and do meaningful things), I can lane very well, I can 2v1 ganks and win, I can outplay people and survive using my passive, all kinds of things. His kit does a lot more than you'd think.

Don't hate on a champion just 'cause you can't make them work.

Deftones1 votes

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Niyumi1 votes

Again, a good Teemo is perfectly viable. He's not popular though, so you don't see many good Teemos.

McKeifus2 votes

Teemo is map control. If you want him to be a team fighter, he won't be. He doesn't fit in the current meta because everyone watches LCS and wants exciting team fights.

Teemo makes sure you know where the enemy is at.

Teemo makes sure that enemies have to buy red and thus have less vision options.

Teemo burns the HP of unwary opponents, reducing their starting HP in team fights.

Teemo is a finisher, and forces enemies to alter their calculations of personal safety or die.

None of these fit into the current hard diving, burst damage, hard CC, invincibility meta. So, I agree, but I don't think he should be reworked to be some flashy, high mobility idiot.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

turn him into a passive support focused on team vision and scouting, instead of that ridiculous passive poke and run playstile.

his shrooms could act as actual wards, without dealing damage. they could work like scuttle crab and boost your allies movement speed when they walk over them instead of exploding.

his q could be an aoe skillshot that doesnt deal damage, but causes a blind effect on every target hit, like quinns q and graves lag cloud.

turn his passive into his w as an active ability to sneak past enemies in the jungle.

The Deckowner1 votes

teemo is the only champion that has a blind now, if u make it shortsight thwn no champ will have a blind.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

the problem is that. he doesn't need a rework. rather. a slight update. sure a rework is always better than a slight update but I DOUBT teemo needs a rework looking at some of the older outdated champions and hes probably not a priority. marksman got updated he got nothing. so maybe he will get his own update. am not sure which class riot considers him in

LET HIM JUMP ON SHROOMS. LIKE SATCHEL CHARGE ZIGGS

Llanite1 votes

He needs buff on his W and that's about it.

Could totally use a visual update though.

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