I Would Like To Call Bullshit On Blue Essence Gained Per Level-Up Being "Faster Than The Old System"

Shuyin178·11/20/2017, 11:03:25 PM·117 votes·5,095 views

To reach level 15 from 0 EXP at 14, it takes at least 12 games, maybe a little less WITHOUT FIRST WIN OF THE DAY FACTORED IN.

Lets say you got 60 IP per game in the old system, at 12 matches that is 720 IP. Not once have I gained even 600 BE worth of stuff when I level up.

So if I'm not even getting the 60IP per game WHICH IS A LOSING STREAK how in the hell is Blue Essence faster when the loot given per level doesn't even come close to breaking even?

81 Comments

Durzaka11/21/2017, 1:47:57 AM15 votes

You got proof of 600 BE? Because the minimum upon level up is 810

xPhantomDancerX11/20/2017, 11:24:56 PM12 votes

This is similar to when riot claims that one report is the same as nine reports, but it seems that people just believe what they hear unless they can somehow go through the process themselves and see what's what.

WereKitty11/21/2017, 1:22:15 AM10 votes

Bro, when you are level 52 and you still keep getting ww's (worth of 90BE) ull start to live with that.

bartholemau11/21/2017, 4:15:55 AM8 votes

My 2 cents... From someone who played the game from the start. it's just Meh as I said before this patch dropped in a post ages ago (about a year)...This cookie cutter make you pick pre-determined paths for runes/masteries... It is the same sh*t that killed WOW. Make a cookie cutter build for dummies to do max damage and then force everyone to follow it. You know I was ok with it hey try the new system see where it goes. But now the no gain after a game and sitting around for 10+ games just to get a reward... Here is the example of how its gonna kill the game. you have 4760 BE and you really have been looking forward to unlocking well lets pick draven. you just leveled and thats where u are left... instead of playing that one more game to unlock your goal you just go to bed... they are killing the will to press on and continue. Talk about making it feel like a grind for a reward... now you gotta really play game after game after game just to get what you want to try... and then say you like the champ but hate the play style after you unlock it because come on not every champ is for everyone. I had played this game less in the last year or so. This patch has really pushed me into not making me interested to play. I have friends who are still die hard players and beg me to join them often and that will end up being the only time I play. Why play a game if you have to play 10 more just to be rewarded for playing?

The only thing left that would interest me in the game would be trying new champs, trying new builds. Here we see Riot has shut down the one of the biggest draws to old time players. I am a casual gamer so yes I have played from the start but I still do not own every champ. I owned all the runes and was appalled at only getting around 30k BE for owning all of them... so first I feel ripped off, Second I dont feel like its worth my time to play anymore. Other MOBA are much more interesting now.

Raven Redeemed11/21/2017, 3:39:27 AM7 votes

There seems to be some confusion in this post. The OP is making less than 600 BE because (I assume) they are less than level 20. Levels 1-30 do not give out random amounts of BE per level, it is all predetermined. Levels 1-19 all reward <= 600 BE per level (except for level 5 which grants a little over 3.5k BE which I assume the OP forgot or neglected to mention). It's also important to note that early levels require less XP to achieve than later levels.

According to Rito's Post you will always make more BE when leveling to 30 than before. You will get exactly 20,312 BE (FWotD not included) vs the old 13,000-18,000 (FWotD included). You will also level faster unless you play more than 9 games before you get FWotD.

I have not tested the numbers myself (because I don't smurf), but I'd going to trust in Riot's numbers until I see something more factual than guesswork that proves otherwise.

Tomoe Gozen11/21/2017, 3:04:17 PM6 votes

I've gotten my third level up capsule yesterday and i've gotten only one champion from it - Maokai. He is 4800 BE and disenchanting him got me 1200 BE. My previous 2 capsules had 5 champions in each and if you had more champs, they were probably lower valued. But my BE gain wasn't below 810.

So no, people need to stop the BS about maffz being incorrect when Riot gave you the math. You not accepting the evidence is your own problem and it has no actual relevance to how the system actually works.

People are now more salty and think they're getting less because they're not being drip-fed BE after each game (which will be the case when some BE from FWofD will be converted to 50 BE). Now, you get it in bigger chunks after level ups which again, is more than we ever got from the old system.

InfinitexMortal11/21/2017, 5:39:25 PM5 votes

Wish they would stop giving me 450be champ shards like MasterYi I dont need them and their 90be is insulting after grinding a level.

Ebolol11/21/2017, 10:21:34 AM4 votes

Don't forget they jacked the prices off a bunch of stuff up too, like charging 3500+ BE to get a mastery emote

Darkvaine11/21/2017, 2:50:42 PM3 votes

this post is bullshit or outdated...

Wráthful11/21/2017, 7:04:40 AM3 votes

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To reach level 15 from 0 EXP at 14, it takes at least 12 games, maybe a little less WITHOUT FIRST WIN OF THE DAY FACTORED IN.

Lets say you got 60 IP per game in the old system, at 12 matches that is 720 IP. Not once have I gained even 600 BE worth of stuff when I level up.

So if I'm not even getting the 60IP per game WHICH IS A LOSING STREAK how in the hell is Blue Essence faster when the loot given per level doesn't even come close to breaking even?

by their math ppl who dont play much daily are getting approx 20% more IP and those who play more than the average are fucked.

Quepha11/21/2017, 4:17:24 AM3 votes

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WITHOUT FIRST WIN OF THE DAY FACTORED IN.

Too bad that, in the real world, it DOES exist.

Your entire post is worthless.

Kloqdq11/21/2017, 1:58:33 PM3 votes

You get a predetermined amount from 1-30.

RunninInThe90s11/21/2017, 1:00:29 PM3 votes

Here's a post from Riot Cactopus talking about the new level 1-30 progression system: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/pt/c/developer-corner/hAaYMrEs-leveling-and-rewards-early-impressions-and-adjustments

And here is a picture from that post showing what your level-up rewards are from level 1-30: https://i.imgur.com/SWsjH5M.png[/img]

Leveling up from 14 to 15 should have given you 960 BE. If it did not, that is an error and you need to contact riot support.

AVA Foxling11/21/2017, 1:23:41 PM2 votes

I agree, all i got last time was a Yasuo skin shard and nothing else... and the times before where all low ones like Ashe, Soraka, warwick. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Nìcô11/21/2017, 5:55:34 PM2 votes

I'm honestly frustrated with the fact that I get champ shards that disenchant for 90 BE.