Pyke is a good support for the following reason

BLIGHTBRINGER··1 votes·2,988 views

Now you will be able to buy AD and items that debuff enemies and not get flamed for "trolling".

Let's say you have an enemy support who is a healer you can just buy item 3123 and help your ADC by debuffing them with Grievous Wounds or even buy Black Cleaver I guess to lower their Armor. Pyke is a good and unique support and I want to thank Riot for this addition to the Support role.


Speaking of builds here's the one I see working out, potentially.

item 3401 item 3071 item 3147 item 3033 item 3026 item 3158

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FOR JUSTICE1 votes

Death is the best CC

Jaspers1 votes

Duskblade has a dewarding passive.... it's always been a support item... honest.

proceeds to oneshot the enemy adc alone

Paroe1 votes

realistically i think pike builds might be along the lines of item 3022 item 3156 item 3047 item 3147 item 3401 item 3193. Or perhaps even item 3401 item 3147 item 3047 item 3046 item 3094 item 3031.

I can see crit working very well on pike.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

I wonder how Tanky Pyke is like...

item 3071 item 3022 item 3156 item 3026 item 3748 item 3009

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XVwM990A,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-05-15T10:55:00.447+0000)

I wonder how Tanky Pyke is like...

item 3071 item 3022 item 3156 item 3026 item 3748 item 3009

Assuming 10% bonus HP converted into AD; Cleaver becomes 80AD, 20% CDR. Frozen mallet becomes 100AD Titanic becomes 85AD

So... Youre a sticky wierd Udyr? :P

Dokkaebi1 votes

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Assuming 10% bonus HP converted into AD; Cleaver becomes 80AD, 20% CDR. Frozen mallet becomes 100AD Titanic becomes 85AD

So... Youre a sticky wierd Udyr? :P

why are you assuming 10%? If it was only a portion it would have read there

Paroe1 votes

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why are you assuming 10%? If it was only a portion it would have read there

Because it would be beyond stupid for him to have a 1:1 conversion, as the ratio of HP to AD is 4:1 in terms of price.

~100% gold efficiency would be 14% of bonus HP as AD; 10% is reasonable in that respect.

Dokkaebi1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XVwM990A,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-05-15T10:55:00.447+0000)

I wonder how Tanky Pyke is like...

item 3071 item 3022 item 3156 item 3026 item 3748 item 3009

He converts all bonus health in to damage. He will be squishy no matter how you build him.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

Wait really? I didn't know that, which part of that is in his kit? A secondary passive?

Update: I just saw the secondary passive. That's rather interesting, but that also means that he will be vunrable as a leaf.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Face of the Mountain has been removed from the game.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

I couldn't find the icon to the replaced item.

Pokemonred2001 votes

item 3401? Just type 'eye'. The actual item name is 'Remenant of the Aspect' though.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

Thanks for the assist, friend.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

thaBeast1 votes

jg pyke seems better

Dokkaebi1 votes

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jg pyke seems better

he has nonexistent jungle clear.

thaBeast1 votes

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he has nonexistent jungle clear.

it all depends on the cd

rtbf2234347211 votes

Wards will negate is passive. Poke will keep him from engaging and as the adc gets items will hurt more and more. Creeps and good position will prevent his hook. PHANTOM UNDERTOW will be his escape ability, if he engages with it he will not disengage. His R is very situational.

He is squishy. He does not offer a very good peel.

He is an all or nothing type of champ. Great early but probably weak late game. If you cant get a good advantage with his ganks and engages early, late game you will have a hard time.

He is a interesting champion, reminds me of Lee Sin in terms of scaling. I think Braum and supports with disengage like Alistar , TahmKench , Janna will counter him effectively.

Paroe1 votes

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Wards will negate is passive. Poke will keep him from engaging and as the adc gets items will hurt more and more. Creeps and good position will prevent his hook. PHANTOM UNDERTOW will be his escape ability, if he engages with it he will not disengage. His R is very situational.

He is squishy. He does not offer a very good peel.

He is an all or nothing type of champ. Great early but probably weak late game. If you cant get a good advantage with his ganks and engages early, late game you will have a hard time.

He is a interesting champion, reminds me of Lee Sin in terms of scaling. I think Braum and supports with disengage like Alistar , TahmKench , Janna will counter him effectively.

"reminds me of lee sin in terms of scaling"? You realize lee sin has one of the highest AD burst rotations in the game STILL, right? The only reason hes a bruiser is because its just "how you play him"; His base damage and his ratios are insane, letting him function as a threat with only one or two AD items.

rtbf2234347211 votes

Yes that is all very pretty.

For me this champ reminds me of lee sin because he will have insane early game capabilities and his late game will be... not so good. - -That was what a meant when i used the word "scaling", not numbers i don't know Pikes numbers.

And that's it.

I'm ignoring individual player skill of course.

Paroe1 votes

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Yes that is all very pretty.

For me this champ reminds me of lee sin because he will have insane early game capabilities and late game will be... not so good. - -That was what a meant when i used the word "scaling", not numbers i don't know Pikes numbers.

And that's it.

I'm ignoring individual player skill of course.

Lee sin... doesnt... fall off. Bruisers fall off sure, but lee sin, the champion, is good at all stages of the game. "Lee sin falls off late" is one of the biggest lies perpetuated, like the lie that "zed is a high skill champion" or "crit is weaker than AP".

rtbf2234347212 votes

Ok ok.

Just don't take too long to win the game and keep landing those insec's.

RogueWill1 votes

I am the only one thinking....what is preventing him to go to a solo lane? I mean so far from what I have sin on his preview there is not much that scales well with a teammate. Sure the passive woudl be awkward on a mid lane (since the bushes are not as available) but could work considerably well as long as he is not against a pushing control mage. He could also go top and trade considerably well but most important, I think he is possible a well jungler, kind of a kha zix or an old Ekko.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

I mean from Riot's perspective the only thing stopping him is the lack of waveclear that he has.

But they tried to encourage players to try him top, in their latest Q&A

RogueWill1 votes

Yeah.... I mean half of the tanks that you play top lane have very weak waveclear. That doesn't stop shen to go top lane. And I really think he would do very well on the jungle with his passive. I really don't see that kit as a support unless the damage is low (like rakkan) but they are selling hima s high damage/assassin kind of support

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