Whats the best way to play Zyra as a support?

Critty92·Apr 20, 2019·1 votes·2,446 views

I am a support main, I usually dont have problems with learning how to play supports but Zyra is more tricky to me.

I dont understand what upgrading her W does. How do I fully utilize her E? When do I use my W? Which abilities do I max first? What the ideal Zyra support build?

What are some of the tips and tricks to be as annoying to the enemy as possible while keeping you and your ADC alive at the same time helping your ADC get kills?

To all ADC mains: What do you expect from me when I pick Zyra? How should I play? Aggressive or Passive?

6 Comments

X1 BrownNoseApr 20, 20191 votes

Build full ap

Critty92Apr 20, 20191 votes

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Build full ap

That tells me nothing dude, Im aware i have to do damage, but im interested in how I should play, where should I go, what should I do and so on.

Ahri BakaApr 20, 20191 votes

Can't help you much but but I have a friend who mains Zyra Feel free to Add him , he can help https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=mezo

IllabetheApr 20, 20191 votes

You Prioritize Q, then E, then W.

Q plants have the longest attack range, and Q itself can set up plants behind minions without drawing their aggro, killing them, and shunting your gold gain from trinket. If Q plants don't immediately attack a champion, you may have to auto attack them, but that's generally okay, because Zyra's attack range is generally long for a mage.

If you time Q use correctly with 2 spread out seeds, you can deny opposing adcs their cannon minions, because they'll be more worried about the damage they are taking.

E is secondary, because increasing the root is important, and the on board damage of the skill is more reliable and this more important than getting more seeds from W. If you wait too long to build it up, you'll find opponenet defense sometimes creeps up on you and makes you less effective.

Fully utilizing E:

-Generally you want to cast it either after you have already Q'd into 2 W's OR you want to cast E first, and then cast 2 W's and use Q to activate them. You rarely EVER want to proc W with E, because the attack range is low, and thus the slow isn't that effective.

Wait to use it until you an guarantee it will hit. In other words, if Master Yi is running at you ulted, do NOT cast E, or you will guarantee your death. Cast Q > W W, wait for him to alpha strike to try to dodge the damage/ get to you, R yourself, and then when he lands from Alpha strike, E him. This will root him long enough for the R to activate, and follow with a knockup. Hopefully if you did this exchange right, you got away, and at least heavily damaged Yi, while he didn't kill you, and maybe killed him.

Zyra's kit isn't hard at all. What is hard is learning timing, and to be patient, rather than button mashing. She has low cooldowns so a new player will always be apt to button mash.

KazekibaApr 20, 20191 votes

I like defensive Zyras - Ones that walk side to side to plant her passive in wide "gates" and using W during her Q/E casts for maximized damage.

I see Zyra as more of a Zone control than a DPS, someone who prevents you from moving forward rather than attempting to force her way forward the way Heimer does. Primarily for two reasons - 1, because Her plants are much easier to kill than Heimer turrets, and in greater numbers and two because theyre short duration, high damage.

As Illabethe said, Q max, W last. item 3098 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BUY THIS ITEM AS SOON AS YOU CAN. Zyra and Lux players alike - please remember your goal is to be in a position to recall at ~500g if you can, so you can get this item right away. If you want to camp in lane longer, 1100g gets you Frostfang + Stopwatch (provided you took Magic Footwear, rather than Perfect Timing. Or didnt take Insp at all.) but more importantly, lets your ADC back with you and pick up a BFSword or Zeal.

Mid-game build should look more like item 3098 item 3158 item 3151 item 2420 item 3107

45% CDR is pretty convenient for Zyra but you don't build a lot of it until late game. Rylais is a good option if youre extremely ahead (something like 3/2/10 and your team is 20 to 12). Sorcerers or Mobis can be picked up if you want. Or defensive boots if the enemy mid is fed.

Redemption/Zekes may not seem like good items on her, but I find a lot of value in them myself as I still enjoy supporting my team, or having my support carrying some level of protection even if they're a zone mage rather than a utility support.

MorgManBasherApr 23, 20191 votes

Max e first. This isn't even a question, it not only lowers the cooldown but also increases the root duration. Only Q seeds, plants turned by E are useless since they aren't ranged. So e for the root and then instantly drop seed(s)/Q on top for best damage. Remember that your ult is only strong with plants on top of it, without the plants it's damage sucks due to your ult giving plants attack speed. Make sure to weave in auto attacks when poking with w/q, not only for extra damage but also to make sure your plants attack the right target.

Core build is item 3020 item 3098 item 3151 Or you can rush item 3165 if you need the heal reduction.

Generally my zyra builds are: item 3020 item 3116 item 3151 item 3098 And then... Am I snowballing and they don't have magic resist? item 3285 Do I need heal reduction? item 3165 Am I scared of an assassin like zed/talon/regnar whose focusing me? item 3157 Are they extremely stackd on magic resist? item 3135