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Unpopular opinion: Crit items are freaking busted

Critty92·2/4/2020, 6:18:37 PM·12 votes·5,666 views

Change my mind

Like, late game you can basically do double damage for each AA you do, it gets really annoying and I cant outheal it 100% critical is insane, its the reason why you lose games.

By pure logic and healthy reasoning it only makes sense that crit should go up to 45% max. It's only fair

Now, I know half of you will be mega salty about this and calling me a dumbarse and downvoting without commenting. If you think i'm wrong, say why i'm wrong

43 Comments

vgamedude2/4/2020, 7:08:14 PM8 votes

Yep, and the only people who get enough vamp to counter getting hit a 1100 auto are the same people using those crit items. Marksmen are unbalanced and have always been. Doing the most damage in the game the most reliably (autos) will never be fair.

Thefrostyviking2/4/2020, 9:13:10 PM6 votes

You´re not supposed to be able to outheal the lategame damage man, by pure logic that would be ridiculous in a moba since no one would die if both sides have a healer which would automatically put the game in a stalemate or make the side with a healer autowin. '

Yikes to even make a complaint like this you´d have to extremely salty, tried to tank a fullbuild Caitlyn headshot with a glass cannon did we? x)

And crit buils are easily countered by the likes of Ornn having 450 armor at 3 items or even a Shen using his ....is it the W? To make himself and all nearby allies immune to auto attacks when they remain in that area.

They can just parade infront of the fattest crits and have them down to 150 damage, at worst, which isnt terribly noticeable when they have a 5000 healthbar.

GFREEMEN2/4/2020, 6:22:20 PM4 votes

Im been saying Crit in general is busted

Knight SoIaire 2/4/2020, 6:34:09 PM4 votes

is this a troll or what... bramble vest is just 1000 gold and it practicaly forces the adccto walk out of a teamfight and reconsider his behaviour not to mention that riot went so ham on buffing damage of everything else right now (besides a jungler) ... that even supports start to feel confident that they can just solo enemy adc's (something they can rarely do vs any other enemy)

i get that a fed adc can go bonkers and be annoying... but if you pick a couple meta champions that just wont happen ... maybe with mf cause that meta suits her much more than other adc's but besides that just delete the minion and continue.

FSRER2/4/2020, 7:05:49 PM3 votes

They are powerful but so is armor. Now Magic Damage on the other hand, that is the real problem in League of Legends but yeah..let's not talk about that, should we Rito?

Iljos2/4/2020, 8:17:55 PM2 votes

"I can't outheal a full build dps carry", huh I wonder why that is?

Nightstick242/5/2020, 3:15:33 AM2 votes

I think it's balanced based on the number of items you need to get that are Crit items. Many of them don't give much actual damage themselves, aside from IE. Shiv, Rapid Fire, Ruunans are all attack speed and crit, so your attack damage isn't as high - making abilities do less. If you build 100% crit you don't have room for much Lethality, so armour can quickly counter you, you also can't get some more utility items, like Maw or QSS/Mercurial's.

If you choose to go for max crit, you have to give up other stuff in your build, grabbing a item 3143 Randuin's reduces crit damage by a flat 20% itself, stack that with item 3047 Ninja Tabi's 12% AA damage reduction and it significantly reduces damage.

Overall I don't know that Crit is too busted, especially since it makes you a glass cannon as there's no crit + sustain items, so assassins can just insta-melt. And assassins that build 100% crit either insta-melt or get insta-melted and are utterly useless.

Håneri2/5/2020, 12:44:45 AM1 votes

ok, what u want to do now, they already reduced ie damage from 250% to 225%, what next, literally make it 200.00000000001%? xD

i mean if u wanna discuss crit itemization as a whole ok but ur post here doesnt make sense, i dont see the logic from which ur arbitrary 45% supposed to follow lol.

not to mention, with as much damage as is currently in game, crit needs to be 'strong' otherwise marksmen are going to be garbage.

Mavëríck2/5/2020, 7:17:44 PM1 votes

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Change my mind

Like, late game you can basically do double damage for each AA you do, it gets really annoying and I cant outheal it 100% critical is insane, its the reason why you lose games.

By pure logic and healthy reasoning it only makes sense that crit should go up to 45% max. It's only fair

Now, I know half of you will be mega salty about this and calling me a dumbarse and downvoting without commenting. If you think i'm wrong, say why i'm wrong

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Kabot2/6/2020, 7:26:46 PM1 votes

You play support so of course crits are going to be scary for you.

Also this would assume that all adc's should, do, and always will go crits... but they dont. For example Fortunes flexibility in builds and still remains basically an S tier ADC.

Its called "Glass Cannon" for a reason, just focus them down.

I see it as balanced because;

  • number of items to get 100% crit rate
  • The items dont give u health or more mass except for dmg output and attack speed (Except lifeline).
  • It has counter play, Armour, Tabis, Runduins, and thorn mail (for damage reflect and G wounds)
  • They're glass cannons, focus them in team fights, that's the point of the team comp right?. And they will have someone trying to peel for them and the better team at it can usually win. In theory.
The Bad Touch2/6/2020, 8:31:56 PM1 votes

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Change my mind

Like, late game you can basically do double damage for each AA you do, it gets really annoying and I cant outheal it 100% critical is insane, its the reason why you lose games.

By pure logic and healthy reasoning it only makes sense that crit should go up to 45% max. It's only fair

Now, I know half of you will be mega salty about this and calling me a dumbarse and downvoting without commenting. If you think i'm wrong, say why i'm wrong

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SweetShiroNeko2/4/2020, 6:33:19 PM1 votes

At the current state of the game where marksman are basically inexistent, that role got taken over by AD burst carries, the crit chance items should be removed. The time when an ADC had to know how to kite has long gone, now its all nuke them all.

The entire team2/4/2020, 10:19:42 PM1 votes

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What sort of pure logic and healthy reasoning are you drawing from? Because what I'm reading is super mega salt, not healthy for the reasoning and pure logic.

Also the crit damage isn't even that high if you're a tank. If you're just doing nothing while the ADC is attacking you, that's on your head.