edge of night is a free spellshield that negates the first cc they will try to use on quinn
the issue is the snowball potential of champs like quinn and pantheon, but unlike old katarina, they dont have to focus nearly as much as positioning. their kits are also designed to shut down lane opponents...katarina's is not
i'm always the one picking the tanky champ on my team since so many people have a carry mindset, and i climbed from silv 4 to gold 5 in literally 2 days to get my free skin
if everything in this game was so set in stone as you believe it to be, then why are quinn and pnath god tier tops? the answer is that they shut down competition in top fairly easily and can use their mobility and burst to keep themselves fed and propel their teammates forward