PSA: When you see your teammate splitpushing, don't engage a 4v5 and then missing ping the splitter

correction

When you see your teammate splitpushing, please engage a 4v5 but don't ping the splitter

A very common low elo problem, that I haven't entirely gotten past myself, is inability to distinguish between "a good opportunity to land your engage tool" and "a good opportunity to engage the enemy".

Not having enough teammates around is one of the main factors that can make one of those things very, very different from the other. Not having enough vision to know how many enemies are around is another.

This.

It's literally the most common thing ever- and I don't understand. All you have to do is stand in a different lane, and not do anything until the split pressure is there.

How is that hard?

PSA. Stop fucking splitpushing, it is a technique that requires high teamwork and skill from all of team's members. If you assume that it's hard to engage your team with all the mobility and summs that are available, aside from the fact that your team is probably not LCS level and will probably make positioning mistakes, you deserve to lose the game.

Honestly, even though some champs are great at splitpushing, there are hardly any occasions when they should be doing that instead of teamfighting until mid diamond elo. The fact that Shaclone can do it does not mean that either you or your bronze-silver teammates can play a splitpush properly.

Let's see, a proper splitpush requires:

-Keypoint vision (pretty much never available in pre-diamond) -Extreme awareness (to use the vision properly) -Pinpoint positioning from the 4-man (to maintain the pressure but not get engaged on) -Proper timing from the splitpusher. -Either power or ability advantage over your opponent who should come to stop you. (actually the easiest thing to get, but it's the least important too) -Engage/disengage coordination from the 4-man.

Now how many things you could put a check on in soloq? 1-2? It's true that the enemy team may play with your splitpush horribly too and give you chances, but that is WAY less likely as countering the splitpush has way less requirements. So, you're basically putting your team in a disadvantage if you split, and while it may succeed occasionally, most of the time it will fail.

Tl;dr - splitpush is a high elo/team tactic, don't expect it to work with low elo teammates or else you're the fool.

Side note: If you aren't playing a splitpush champion please do not dedicate your time to just splitpushing when you have a teamfight changing ulti/kit

4 of my teammates are mid past the river with a nice creep wave. I'm Master Yi, top, with a nice wave myself.

"guys pressure but dont engage give me time to split push" "ok" "gotchu fam" "no prob" "roger dodger"

Suddenly, a wild Malphite appears! My teammate flash ults under their tower and only hits Sona! The rest of the team dives! It's a slaughter! After they're wiped out in a 4v5, the enemy pushes mid and takes the inhib! But don't worry, we have salt!

"yi wtf" "where were you?" "/all please report our feeding yi" "this fucking guy"

Every time I play someone and try to splitpush.

Where is the one saying " If your enemy team is crashing your towers , stop split pushing and help the base?"

cause

I know I ping the split pusher when enemy is crashing towers and we look and they are split pushing top and saying STFU and hold them..

you lose the tower and inhib and in hib, Then inner towers and base.

then you get to listen after game to your split pusher " OMG MY TEAM F;ing SUCKS!!!!!"

its like -.- ummm. we pinged you 20 times to come help and you just sat top and only took one tower.. while they crashed the base and took it all. 1 tower < 4 towers+ inhib + base

Ping omw top.

Ping that TP is up.

While walking top watch team engage 4v5 in the jungle with no wards to TP to.

Proceed to bask in question marks.

This happens so often... I try and go clear a wave bot, I'll even ping danger, say in chat im clearing waves don't fight yet. What do they do? They fight!

Ermmm.....eng.....engage 1v5. GOT IT!

Thats my trigger. Especially when you type "I have TP in 2 minutes dont fight" then they fight 30 seconds later and you get spammed by ????????????????????

Second psa: letting the enemy close enough to engage counts as engaging.

Just to make something clear (and I agree with you)

I'm gonna engage the living funk out of the enemy team if they try to recall. Just to back off immediately. You better get some damage done for that though.

idk why riot cant allow for voice chat

idk who has time to type in game ill be spilting dont fight... then let alone anyone read that

Did you ping your teleport timer? Because really, you should. Else they will expect you to tp in when there is a scrap.

Thank you.

People in my elo have the "see play make play" mentality (I kinda have it to, to some extent.) that empowers them to go for a big play regardless of how stupid it really is. People in my elo also have a tendency to overextend, someone gets engaged on and everyone else feels obligated to fight to save the guy (then die with him 4v5). I'm not much of a splitpusher but these tendencies make me terrified to go to sidelanes even to farm the massive wave that's collected (because no one knows how to push a lane in) or even to go and grab dinner.

When you "see" your teammate split pushing

I think most people would agree with me, you could turn fog of war off, and your team wont notice you split pushing until after the 4 v 5, then they will look for whoever is still alive and spam ping/blame them :(