PSA: When you see your teammate splitpushing, don't engage a 4v5 and then missing ping the splitter

you should stall and keep them there as long as possible without commiting too much cause 4v5

correction i am challenged woodmaster 1 division

i can solo them

A very common **low elo **problem

Ha. That's what you think.

It** never **goes away.

Most of the time people are dumbos but sometimes they just jump on you and you have to fight. Like if they have a Leona

Well see champions have these things called ultimates and some of them combined with flash are actually pretty good engage tools. Also unless your vision is perfect they have chances to get caught out.When they do get caught out(and they will because plitpushing is hard for even pro teams to manage) they have to fight undermanned while you derp around toplane. Unless of course you decide to dictate what they can do all game just because you wanted to play tryndamere. Which they wont do to because theyre 4 strangers who dont give a crap about you.

Also you realize there are areas that aren't in lanes right? The enemy can flank your team from any part of the jg, and they probably will because your top and a tower doesn't make up for a missing player.

PSA: Split-pushing can be done even in low ELO...you just need to actually inform your team that you are doing so. Tell them you are split-pushing and to hang back and then rush a tower / dragon when you get attacked. If their replies sound like whiny children, then they are too stupid to be trusted and split-pushing is a bad idea even if it the only way to win. If they are chill and don't just mindlessly dive into the enemy team, then feel free to split push to victory. If they make a good argument for why you shouldn't split push...then DO NOT split, because you lucked into a team that is actually intelligent and can win if you work together.

Some champs also just suck in team fights and are only really good at split-pushing.

: Until his rework finally happens, it will always be better to split as Trynd than throw the game on his horrid team fighting. Just stay top lane until you break the inhibitor...which you will because in low ELO they compulsively cannot leave a lone enemy alone and you might even get the whole enemy team to come stop you if you get enough double kills.

: Awesome single-target duelist. Terrible against multiple opponents due to no AoE, no real ranged poke, no ability to pick targets, no reliable diving due to the short range on her Q, and generally lack of utility. Struggles to reach key targets in team fights and is shredded by AoE and chain CC. Pushes waves like crazy and can take out pretty much anyone in a 1v1.

: Like Fiora, except he can actually get away with building tanky so he might be able to team fight if he gets fed. Otherwise he split pushes top lane since he can't poke, lock-down targets, or engage fights.

: Not sure if the rework fixed this but Shaco has virtually nothing to contribute to a team fight. If you have engage, then he can wait for an ally to engage then jump in and nuke someone with Q and pray that his E is enough to finish the target off because his W either explodes right away or is useless as the fight ends or moves away from it. But he pushes lanes like a boss and has hilariously easy escapes with his Q.

Melee champions in general have a hard time contributing to fights unless they are very tanky and/or have good AoE CC to engage with. Champions like , , , and can and should team fight.

But if you have good engage, or someone on your team has good engage, and you are even or ahead, then obviously it's better to just team fight since you can actually win them. If your comp has no good engage or you are all falling behind and can't hope to win a straight fight, then consider split pushing or surrendering.

Source: I've been successfully split-pushing in Bronze and Normals since Season 2. It's a perfectly viable tactic down here, you just need to know when to break it out. I've even gotten xPeke style backdoor victories so pretty much anything works down here if you have half a clue.

It's funny because I often see a lot of games lost because of this. However if you have pressure in a lane it forces someone to take care of it and usually the enemy has to use tp to get to that lane. So when your split pusher meets back with the team is the time to engage when it's 4v5 and pushed on their side. I've noticed that a lot of people even in Platinum make the mistake of letting their lanes get pushed and then the enemy literally just has to stall and let the minions do the work. Split pushing is actually one of the best things you can do in solo que because it GUARANTEES someone has to back or lose a tower/objective if they let you split push. The only thing you need to do when split pushing is making sure that their team isn't going to jump you and watch to see if they're taking baron/elder. I use to play Teemo top before I knew any other top laners when I was last pick in ranked. I'd split push and shroom their jg so I could just go invisible before they got to me and they'd waste time going back and forth. If your team understands and you can communicate, splitpushing can crush a team that would have owned you in a teamfight.

I somewhat disagree with Kat when against a team lacking any AD assassins, but if they do I 100% agree

kay but..... if your top is gnar you need another tanky champion.....

I actually hate this mentality however. If you can't win a 5v5 then the split pusher grouping means nothing 90% of the time. The split pusher doesn't really help with a waveclear problem.

If the enemy team is sieging your tower all they will do is sit there and look and them because they're probably a melee champion that is somewhat squishy. Your tower will still fall and you will just be more behind in gold/xp

At the same time, low elo doesn't understand split pushing. It's a mentality that you start as soon as laning phase is over. You run around the map crashing as many minion waves jnyo towers as possible, then grouping until someone pushes your wave out and you need to crash it again. That way, when you go to split and the enemy team engages, the wave will already be on their side AKA towers are already under pressure. Or if they engage when you're grouped, it'll be a 5v5 but they will be losing 2x minion waves AND can't push for towers because waves aren't favored even if they win.

ya i find people bich about you protecting theyre fkin towers while they are off chasing kills....

Oh I'm sorry because enemy Malphite flash ulted under our own fucking turert that if we weren't there the enemy team would have killed in seconds along with the inhib.

I'm always pinging everything when I can so, yeah. I'm not the one splitting though. Our tank engages the 4v5 then pings missing on our splitting tryn when hes smacking the enemy inhib and wins us the game.

Because there are third party programs that do it already.

I have no idea what the fuck about League's playerbase suggests that voice chat would do anything but exacerbate every single community-based problem. Riot already has to make broad, sweeping generalizations about what qualifies for toxicity, and you want to give these kids another conduit for their crappy behavior? No, thank you-- especially considering how much harder they'd have to work to contain the problems that would arise, and how thinly spread they already seem to be.