About Horrible Azir rework/changes. Revert it Riot while it is not to Cringy..

Poske··2 votes·631 views

There are numerous things which make me mad as an Azir main

A) Azir was proclaimed as an unhealthy champion which was not correct Rylai was a true vilian you see.. 40% slow on soldier autos.. Rylai stats which made Azir UNHEALTHY 3K gold cost. NLR+tome+giant belt (Good buildpath) 500 HP 120 AP

Area of Effect Slow (instant) increased to 40% from 15%. Not only did rylai became stronger item it got 25% more slow Area of Effect Slow (instant) increased to 40% from 15% (USED TO BE 15%) Damage over time or Multi-hit Slow increased to 20% for 1 second from 15% for 1.5 seconds In result Azir could keep enemies near a soldiers hit them bunch of times while turning them in a snails from 1k range. Now that was unhealthy mainly due to that ridicilus number.

Now compare that to current Rylai and you ll understand why azir players dont even consider it a Core.

In result Azir could keep enemies near a soldiers hit them bunch of times while turning them in a snails.

There is a reason why rylai has reduced slow on AOE abilities and why it was that way for like what 5 seasons? Then suddendly they turned rylai into TIER 0 **item and azir was just the best one abusing it. **

B) He was released with 100 BUGS. now fixing the bugs and then nerfing him due to bugfixes being indirect buffs. I can see why riot though he was unhealthy due to fked up data.

Examples you nerf a champion but fix a bug his winrate increases You fix another bug his winrate decreases because another wave of newbies start to try him out You fix another bug which helps him but create another bug You fix bunch of bugs but put him on a free week cycle You buff Azir but his winrate decreases due to bugs

I do know azir stats were fluctuating.

**Stuff like This mostlikely gave Riot an Illusion that AZIR IS HARD TO BALANCE. **

C) Riot never tried to balance azir. They just threw him in a dirt pit and called him unhealthy. Which is what they do with 1/5 of a League roster actually.

D) Azir never needed a rework. Same as Le blanc and few others. Yet they received reworks before xin zhao garen warwick and other archaic kits? Infact might aswell re rework every juggernaut beacuse they were a failure.

I would argue that the whole juggernaut class is a failure.. but then again most of champions I main are hypermobile..

E) Azir direction itself make me want to tear up RIOT HQ. They had 2 directions THE no shurrima shuffle /THE no range on soldiers .

Without shurima shuffle he isnt AZIR. Without his range HIS SOLDIERS ARE POINTLESS aka he is pointless.

So I knew in advance whatever direction they choose it wont end good.

F) Good news everyone they didnt choose just 1 direction THEY CHOSE BOTH.

His WQ Is the most awkvard combo in 2017. You place a soldier and move it 100 range AND you start thinking about commiting suicide.. LEGIT. Pick new azir I dare enyone Throw WQ

You know what is the saddest part? Apart from his dash range which is getting reverts on pbe his range ISNT worse or better it is just more Autistic. Yes I used the word autistic better ban me riot right?

Idk how else to describe it. Whats the opposite word of fluid? Because he is anything but fluid now

Azir having low range on W was a great balance and added bunch of counterplay. AND IT was great way to add his power elsewhere not fking up his power budget..

Azir having no range on Q just leaves any azir main speechless and fills them with anxiety

G) Changes themself

Dash range gutted. Riot already admits this as mistake as they are reverting it. Which is not good enough they should cancel the rework

Azir is rewarded by going in melee with an extra soldier charge?????????????????????????????????????

Oh hi tanks and bruisers YOU see I am this EMPEROR OF SHURIMA... shurima and while in chess pawns go first In shurima you see I have to go in melee range and dash into you YEAH A wonderful idea Absoluetly not the Biggest gimmick ever BUT WAIT thats not it. I AM DOING it because of another gimmick A passive related to number 3. Because you see unless I can have 3 soldiers in fight which requires me to suicide myself into what is infront with WEQ i ll never Match cass/ryze presence

Maybe if teamfights werent decided in the first 5 seconds maybe then Azir would hit his 3 soldier power spike in time and not have to dive in for those cruical extra charges ( Dont worry no good player ll dive for the extra charge.. ever)

And guess what that is not it. Now my ultimate is potato version of Cassiopeia Miasma. My consistency is lower then hers. My range is lower then hers. My dps is lower then hers Unless 3 soldier gimmick occurs. My animations are longer then hers . I cant kite like her or sustain like her.. But hey atleast azir can suicide bomb himself to hit his 3 soldier passive just to get one shoted since he just went to close like a pawn .

He ll become a syndra incarnate Because NO good player ll actually go full melee mode. Nope they ll just randomly spawn W on the ground just like syndra does with her balls if they feel like WINTER IS COMING. But even then soldiers easly dissapear if you get to far unlike syndra balls .

SO yeah the 3 soldier thingy is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. The WQ IS EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. The E range is EWWWWWWWWWW. the ultimate is EWWWWWWWWWWW I guess less melee hate? Thing is this isnt the horrendous change compared to others

H) They buffed the only part which feels out of place on Azir.

The whole shield thingy. Does it even scale of hp nowdays. IS WIKI bugged? quite sure it does just not stated on wiki. Also dont even bother about that 0.4 higher ap ratio on shield since the duration is lowered...

But hey atleast he always gets his shield now!!!! Like good azirs were missing his e or something I dont understand.

Here is what RIOT Can DO to azir instead of rework.

** This is his current ultimate cooldown. 140 / 120 / 100

Change it to 100/90/80. He still has weak laning phase.. But he can actually try to setup somehwere more then once a year.

Make conquring sands (His q ) Do extra damage if multiple soldiers pierce (Along with extra slow it already does extra slow keep that in mind). extra 40%. So your q can like do 80% higher damage if 3 Soldiers pierce one target. (This ll happen if he fights for like 13 seconds potentionaly).

But to offset this make soldiers dissapear faster if they arent auto attacking. Yes I know riot stated like a year ago each soldier auto already extends duration it is just no stated anywhere on his kit (This is like a secret thing azir has).

I really hate seeing azir players preping like they are syndra with soldier spawning. That would be to discourage that.

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That would be enough to put an azir in a good spot without him being polarizing or anything. He has bunch of counters and counterplay.

Another Crazy suggestion this is something worth testing/exploring, There is a word crazy for a reason.

Why cant he dash to his ultimate? Why cant he q his ultimate?

why didnt he gain this in a rework if he lost range yet kept shurima shuffle stuff=?

In order to reduce melee hate. Riot is already planning to make his ultimate only knockback while it is dashing and later for it to be a wall. Thats actually a massive nerf but it is there to reduce melee hate so I dont apose to that change .

But what if he could Q his ultimate soldiers then? His ultimate would equally get opressive against everything rather then just meles while not losing power. Think of it as a compensation because it is just becoming a wall.

I know every single person on Boards would over Rate his Throwing ultimate with Q or dashing to it suggestion so it is under crazy suggestion.

7 Comments

S92nB4 votes

I mean it was the range of Azir that was unbearable.

You are talking about the Rylais slow but no. Back in the day adter level 4, way befoer Rylais was bought, the lane was over. Even a safe laner like Orianna got dumpstered by a champ that doesnt need to leave his turret to push you and poke you ant the same time.

So yeah, His Range is his problem.

Poske1 votes

many champions range is unberable

Lets call them unhealthy to

S92nB2 votes

Whose?

Xerath is all skillshots, as is Ziggs

Ir0n Tomato1 votes

ziggs just has low cooldowns. And its all aoe

Poske1 votes

Q Conquering Sands TARGET RANGE: 875 W TARGET RANGE: 450

His Q can easly be dodged at which point you can autoattack for 60 damage early on before enemy lives the soldier range to a side or backwards

Even if you hit q which is nowdays being maxed second you ll only do 120 dmg with QWAuto

Azir is a type of chanpion who gets bullied in lane nowdays and he was never really sufficient lane bully

If you saw opposite happening azir was way higher elo

S92nB2 votes

Exactly. Nowadays he is weak. Why? Because if his numbers wouldnt suck his design destroy midlane. He has too much range and is too safe to be ganked, with a dash and a disengage ult and he scales well into lategame.

That is why he i unhealthy. He needs to lose soem of his core strengths, and Riot chose his range which imo is the right choice

Poske1 votes

you can literaly say the same about every champion

Every champion would be unhealthy if their numbers were over the top

** I AM CALLING OUT RIOT FOR DEEMING A CHAMPION UNHEALTHY. and yet here you are doing the same** They never tried to find middle ground for him. The suggestion I HAVE would likely accomplish that and there would be no need to rework an already interesting champion

How many games on azir do you have? He has bunch of core weaknesses

He lost rang aka dps / poke, Consistency due to 3 SOLDIER gimmick, Dash range, his ultimate no longer destroys melees

He gained nothing

Unless he ll be able to 2-3 hit enemy champions later in a game as he dashes on top of em he ll be UP

This is what his current rework ll end up like mark my words

Riot chose range? Meanwhile shurima shuffle got gutted. I also mentioned how both their directions were HORRIBLE

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Dont bother replying until you have 100 games on azir

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