Mini gnar has less base health than a lot of squishies. Like yeah he's supposed to be squishier but I think he's too squishy. If you want to team fight you NEED to have Mega Gnar ready, it's way too risky to try and build it up if you ask me.
Mini Gnar has 1013 health at level 10. Compared to other champions: Lux - 1148 Xerath - 1238 Zoe - 1272 Ziggs - 1248 Jhin - 1260 Tristana - 1240 Jayce - 1311
Critmaster Garen3 votesyou know what happens when gnar doesnt suffer?
he decides who is viable top and who isnt.
LemurMonster1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XHaOUYq0,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-10T03:00:42.557+0000)
you know what happens when gnar doesnt suffer?
he decides who is viable top and who isnt.
mallet was the problem. its no longer good on him.
CoffeeCKDD2 votesI agree with him being tough in this meta, but all squishies are in the same boat. Gnar is at least viable due to the mega form. You shouldn’t really be team fighting unless you have it charged up at least :p ( unless they engage on you when your mega isn’t close to being charged, in which case the enemy team was smart for engaging on time! )
KoKoboto1 votesYeah mini Gnar feels so useless outside of lane phase :T
LemurMonster2 votesI agree with him being tough in this meta, but all squishies are in the same boat. Gnar is at least viable due to the mega form. You shouldn’t really be team fighting unless you have it charged up at least :p ( unless they engage on you when your mega isn’t close to being charged, in which case the enemy team was smart for engaging on time! )
Not even his mega form lasts long enough at this point. He not even a tank so I really dunno why people think otherwise when he has none of the abilitys to protect him like true tanks to live through..
I seen these days the enemy teams are smart on knowing how his forms work much more. Its not much of a surprise anymore.
LemurMonster1 votesYeah this so much. this crap is downright unfair. One cant even do off meta builds without blowing up. Revert his Base health reduction & give him some flat MR.
I always took flat MR that no matter what rune page I made for him.
I hate that they nerfed his rang. His only means to PROTECT himself in his mini form! It's his only attack abilty.
I just want to be able to have fun & try different builds.
KoKoboto1 votesMhm. Mega Gnar's form of tanking is through crowd control but I think he could really use a bit more. Sure he gets increased stats but they're really not enough if you ask me. Gnar overall is supposed to be a fighter but mini Gnar is way too squishy later on in the game. Mega Gnar is huge and is easier to hit, should be a bit stronger.
LemurMonster1 votesMhm. Mega Gnar's form of tanking is through crowd control but I think he could really use a bit more. Sure he gets increased stats but they're really not enough if you ask me. Gnar overall is supposed to be a fighter but mini Gnar is way too squishy later on in the game. Mega Gnar is huge and is easier to hit, should be a bit stronger.
Its not much of a surprise anymore. people caught on to it so yeah it does need something to help. its just its too bad he is too squishy in mini to make much use of it.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesthat's because he's more powerful in mega gnar form and has range while in mini gnar form.
im not sure how outdated these numbers are, but they seem relatively close.
Mini Gnar gains 5.5% - 99% (based on level) bonus attack speed, on top of his base attack speed growth of 0.5%.
Mega Gnar gains 100 - 831 (based on level) base health, 3.5 - 38 (based on level) base armor, 3.5 - 29 (based on level) base magic resistance, and 6 - 48.5 (based on level) base attack damage.
edit
got excited so i forgot to make my final point.
fighters arent necessarily all built like garen or tryndamere. gnars fighter-esque thing is that he can be a marksman or a tank. it doesnt necessarily mean he is able to stay in combat a long time or that he is amazing at exchanging auto attacks. but what it does mean is that he's usually wanting to prolong combat. so you skirt the outside edge of a fight.
yes he's weaker than most, but he also has valuable tools other champs dont.