@Riot, Are there any plans to do anything with Fiddlesticks?

Aboylova92·10/13/2015, 4:56:47 PM·27 votes·1,638 views

Fiddle has always been a decent to strong pick since at least I've been playing, that was until the Magus/Runeglaive changes. He REALLY got hit hard from the jungle item changes. 10% loss of CD reduction, loss of AP, and a relatively useless sheen proc. And that wouldn't have been nearly as bad if he hadn't got nerfed time after time (deservedly with the items he had at the time). He just seems really clunky to use now, with no real clear way to play him.

Whether it's the fact that there's really no good jungle item for him, you can't cancel your ult upon re-casting it (something like Pantheon would be great), ect, it just sort of feels like you left him there with no clear ideas for him.

Much like Sejuani, you nerfed him, than the item he used as a core build, then never did anything to make up for the massive changes to his kit. It's clearly showing with his pick rate and win rate now. Sitting at a little over 2% pick rate and under a 50% winrate, he obviously needs a bit of attention.

Ideally it would be as simply as adding a Magus like item back into the game for AP junglers that don't benefit from the sheen proc. Personally I don't see an issue here as AD junglers get 2, potentially three options depending on the champ. But doing some basic changes like being able to cancel his ult for a significant CD reduction, or maybe upping his fear duration would help him quite a lot. Any insight would be helpful as he was quite a fun champion to play, but now seems kind of all over the place with no real direction.

23 Comments

Gunpoint10/13/2015, 6:41:33 PM6 votes

Crittlesticks. item 3087 item 3031 item 3046 item 3035 item 3153 item 3006

SummonerSquid10/13/2015, 10:30:38 PM2 votes

Even if people went item 3157 first, they still ended up buying magus as a 2nd item. The jungle items are very cost efficient. Buying runeglaive is almost a waste of gold now since the proc doesn't help him.

It doesn't change the item he rushes, it changes his 2nd item power spike.

Lobode10/13/2015, 11:18:37 PM1 votes

No Anidan, I think we all just want the old fear back.

WookieJesuz10/13/2015, 11:42:15 PM1 votes

Someting needs to be done. But rito won't do much or even mention it or even talk about it because they are a "commmunity based company"

WhiskerWow10/14/2015, 12:52:18 AM1 votes

He wants a mini-rework. He's really binary except for his ultimate, so there's not much to do when playing as him if your enemy knows what to do. His defense is tied to his offense, so he is a very snowbally champion. Also his visuals are a little bland.

I don't think re-adding in a Magus enchantment for just 1 or 2 meta junglers is a good idea. I disagree with the argument for "But AD has 2 enchantments!" because they cater to 2 different play-styles. AD casters like Wukong or Pantheon or hard AD/AS aa carries like Master Yi and Shyvana.

However, I do think a new AP jungler item is not a bad idea, but it would have to have a very different theme from RuneGlaive. (Maybe an item that supports safety or poke.)

Aezanthya10/14/2015, 9:19:35 AM1 votes

In a world full of mobility, hard cc and whatnot.... I don't see why they don't rework/buff fiddlestick.

Social Justice 110/13/2015, 5:26:12 PM1 votes

Fiddlesticks didn't even buy Magus he rushed hourglass after getting his smite upgraded

Doctor Jarvis10/14/2015, 3:50:01 PM1 votes

Seriously, I'm going to say this every time I see a "buff Fiddlesticks" thread; he needs a new E. That's it. His E used to be sort-of cool, I guess(?) when the silence stayed up after each bounce, but now its a low damage, sorta disrupt-y, medium-high CD (15-11 s) spell. And it costs 50-ONE HUNDRED THIRTY mana (the damage goes from 65-145 +45% AP). Its just a dumb spell from a balance perspective too because its a point-click silence, which the Kassadin nerf proved is hated by Riot, so what the hell? I can't think of anything better but that's the area he needs a buff/change.

Solidair310/13/2015, 7:01:21 PM1 votes

I won't say he doesn't need changes, but I hate how people are pretending the magus changes really affected him.

No one even bought it on him! they'd usually go straight into zhonyas and leave their machete as is.