That'll fix the fact that enchanters get their core builds way faster than any other class in solo queue.
That solves why the pros aren't NEARLY as pressured into using Censer as solo queue.
That'll keep us from unnecessarily nerfing shit.
Keep it up.
WoonStruck1 votesYou're not entirely wrong, but life drain portion of Ardent Censor still needs to be removed.
chipndip11 votesNo one remembers that point in time where Thresh was the strongest support in the game after Redemption/Locket got nerfed.
Guess what wasn't buffed yet (again)? Coin
We over-buffed the most toxic gold gen item in the game, but we got a hard on for nerfing Ardent to the point where it's weaker than it was before even late last year. I don't understand it.
meowwow71 votesthe occurrence i see with the coin is like thresh's passive it drops something they want they go to grab it and nobody punishes them for doing that while they aren't at full build to make the engages useless on them
chipndip11 votesYou can't sit there and pressure someone out of EVERY coin drop. To boot, coins drop from kills/assists after 650 gold gathered and the drop range increases.
The issue with coin is that it simply pumps out too much gold. The game isn't designed with supports actually having a decent income in mind. Nerf coin, and solo queue will be way more tolerable. Don't, and we'll do this song and dance until enchanter itemization is two years back in the past.
meowwow71 votesi'm not saying every coin drop but when i do play coin on any support i have not once seen anyone approach me with any cc or autos to harass me or to turn it into an engage
chipndip11 votesAnd I'm telling you that it doesn't matter if they do or don't. It drops coins like candy. Body blocking one 25 or 40 gold coin doesn't stop them from getting a ton off of future waves, kills, and/or assists in the near future.
It works for pro play because supports are expected to roam a lot. It doesn't work in solo queue because SQ supports don't roam even close to that amount. That's why this toxic solo queue environment currently persists, and why enchanters are actually pretty shit in pro play despite Ardent being balanced as intended (used as a strong build foundation on some champs, but not required on every champ).
DarkRitual1 votesIn pro play, 
buys Ardent Censor.
chipndip11 votesAs far as I recall, that gimmick happened once. Tada?
DarkRitual1 votesAt least once. Maybe only once in NA though. Sej was a bigger pick in EU than it has been in NA.
Dasdi961 votesStop blaming supports on the real problem of the game: adc itemization being op.
Leaf on Bush1 votesHypercarry duos with censer work so well because it requires little coordination and the mistakes that your enemies make literally punish themselves.
Shields and heals are just great at baiting enemies into thinking that they can make a play, when that play actually means their certain death.
chipndip11 votes...thanks for sharing?
Leaf on Bush1 votesthanks for... idk what actually.
What I am saying is, all you need to beat censer is coordination and a good engage. You rarely see that in SoloQ.
This whole meta gets way too much hype and nobody wants to discuss counterplay.