Creep block is HELL and it's driving me CRAZY!

DJ S0NA·Nov 26, 2015·183 votes·7,495 views

I've been testing creep block with Nasus and how freakashly hard is to navigate around minions or units. IT'S REAAAAAALLY HAAARD! Something needs to be done! I'm going to show some examples on how pathing and minion blocking is unbelievably stupid!

P.S: RED Pathing is where it directs me. BLUE Pathing is where it should direct me (THERE ARE MANY MANY MANY MANY WAYS) and GREEN circle means what I want to basic attack.

Example 1: http://i.imgur.com/ad9FyuK.jpg

Example 2: http://i.imgur.com/EQeF5Xz.jpg

Example 3: http://i.imgur.com/7IdGqYx.jpg

Example 4: http://i.imgur.com/QjRSCpt.jpg

Example 5: http://i.imgur.com/qbbdBFK.jpg

I have LOADS AND LOADS OF MORE EXAMPLES! Creep block is TERRIBLE and NO ONE LIKES IT! It makes champions behave stupidly and it creates ANXIETY and FRUSTRATION! Either remove it or make minions move away when coliding with them.

77 Comments

Deep Terror NamiNov 26, 201575 votes

Minions are now League's version of Dota 2's trees.

EllaRyu69Nov 26, 20157 votes

lel and i thought Dota 2's creep blocks are bad

maikokkNov 26, 20154 votes

dotas creep blocks have a purpose, at least. there is no denial in league... there is no wave pacing... the minions will rush right past you if you try to block them...

CornbreadAvengerNov 26, 201531 votes

at least the trees aren't in the middle of the lane

Deep Terror NamiNov 26, 201528 votes

Nah, they've got that covered too.

WestonbirtNov 26, 201515 votes

Maokai

Deep Terror NamiNov 26, 201525 votes

More like this;

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Irelia BotNov 26, 20157 votes

CURSE YOU NATURES PROPHET!!!!!

I forgot to buy Tangos

SmithneyNov 26, 20153 votes

Chill, it's Brood, she's just gonna Spin Web all over it...

MetalGearTeemuNov 27, 20152 votes

Its too late bro. Spirit breaker is already charging.

He's got dust.

its game over man GAME OVER

Virgin RayNov 26, 20153 votes

Wow what a coincidence that riot game made a tree Hecarim

SmithneyNov 26, 20154 votes

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Minions are now League's version of Dota 2's trees.

We need Ranger's Trailblazer back, now!

ZerglingOneNov 26, 201535 votes

The worst is getting caught on a minion's hitbox. Your character will just kinda jerk in place for 1-3 seconds and do a reaaaally slow walking animation. Creep block has never been worse.

Ariel the CruelNov 26, 20153 votes

I just had an issue where I was creep blocked by a dead Tryndamere. Kinda awkward when my character starts spazing out on top of a corpse. :/

spavinedNov 26, 20154 votes

i got stuck on a turret without any minions around..... my champ kept spazzing until i directed them to go backwards, go around the turret and get the previous move command, it was really irritating.

OshletNov 26, 20156 votes

I've been locked against a wall by a ward a couple of times.

MrWasjigNov 26, 20157 votes

It's quite the inconvenience. But it is rather amusing to watch a champion spin in place, could harness the energy of their rotations to power your home for a fortnight

undesirable teamNov 26, 201518 votes

Now i have a reason to build item 3046 on Karthus , Thanks rito :D

Yxion the YordleNov 26, 20155 votes

I would too if item 3046 wasn't a shit tier item now. You know what does the same thing as only better?

item 3085 , and for 200 less gold. If your melee, sucks to be you.

Ariel the CruelNov 26, 20153 votes

item 3046 item 3812 = 24% flat damage reduction. (well, 12% is a bleed that can easily be out-healed) Dancer is actually really strong. just kinda overshadowed at the moment.

kaltenashesNov 26, 20151 votes

i have no clue what death's dancer is for, i read its against bursty Leblanc Fizz and so i'm building only against them

maikokkNov 26, 20152 votes

its for AD casters. and yes, it counters burst a bit which makes it somewhat viable on right click champs in some cases.

basically you build deaths dance if you are urgot, pantheon, khazix, or another champ with a spammable single target physical damage nuke that doesnt benifit from lifesteal.

ValexforNov 26, 20152 votes

It's gives pretty good sustain too on skills like renek's and riven's q, so if you can, you should always buy it on those champs.

TyaldanNov 26, 20152 votes

Or darius q. Basically, if you do physical damage, AND like to get up close and personal (ie melee champ) deaths dance is your new go to item. Only person i would take something else over on 100% of the time is jax, due to hextech helping his scalings and doing 15% of ALL damage. So it helps heal him from his magic too.

maikokkNov 26, 20152 votes

so you are super-sayin renekton mid new meta?will be a decent counter to illaoi... who actually seems to be a better fit midlane than top

ValexforNov 26, 20152 votes

Did it, lost just because enemy Yasuo had Warrior's Bloodlust and I couldn't do shit to him, but renek is actually quite good mid, since he can burst down squishies with one full rage combo if given the chance.

fred loueNov 27, 20152 votes

Welp. Looks like ad galio will be a thing. :P

OpistachNov 26, 20159 votes

Maybe this is Riots way of punishing us for not picking ADC's?

The DrBonjigolloNov 26, 20157 votes

Example 5 is my favorite.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Bladerunner7777Nov 26, 20157 votes

Normally I would be like: Doesn't matter to me Hecarim ignores unit collision! <:D

http://imgur.com/ow00jS1

http://imgur.com/Lfjb7if

D:>

Stars ShaperNov 26, 20156 votes

It's the only way they'll buff Kassadin xD

Elijah ProphetNov 26, 20155 votes

Good examples. I think a change is due! It has costed me too many deaths and missed cs.

LuciferNov 26, 20154 votes

Some of this isn't just creep block, it's also auto pathing being terrible.

StephenizgodNov 26, 20154 votes

Creep Block is bad, but its even worse that your minions seem to be actively trying to kill you now! I have been surrounded by my own minions before with no apparent reason!! They just randomly are like "Hey why are we dying for this chump? he can't even push me out of the way... Follow me lets surround this scrub under the enemy's turret! CHAAARRGGEEE!!!!"

A Miss FortuneNov 26, 20153 votes

I remember not that long ago I was playing Poppy Jungle. Of course Poppy is a melee champion and I'm not very use to clearing with her this new season. I was a bit low on health but Poppy is still really tanky and her stun lets her clear pretty well.

I go over to Raptors and as I start hitting the big one I get trapped in between all 4 Raptors and as I realized I couldn't clear the camp and tried to escape they kidnapped me and killed me.

macromiteNov 26, 20155 votes

the mistake here is that you were hitting the big one first, kill little raptors first.

DarkRitualNov 27, 20152 votes

True for most camps, kill little ones first. Overall you should take less damage by saving the bigger minion for last.

SH AzykanNov 27, 20152 votes

only raptors and krugs do you take less by killing the small one first; but if you are going to smite krugs, killing the big one first is better.

MaikalNov 26, 20153 votes

I was ganking a Jax on Shyvana who was pushed at his turret, and I pathed around the minions towards my turret while he just walked away and then I had to stop and turn around to catch up to him because riot pathing was going to make me go all the fucking way around the pile of minions and do a loopty loop while he walks to his turret, but at that point it was too late. We committed too hard and he ended up getting a double kill under turret b/c NA dives. Fuck creep block.

DalaninNov 27, 20153 votes

More like this in PBE http://imgur.com/LuXhWQp

Just Blame JennyNov 26, 20152 votes

I've seen a lot of threads on creep block recently!

I haven't had much time to play since preseason started. Sure, it was annoying before, but has it gotten worse lately? Just curious.

EugoogalizerNov 26, 20153 votes

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I've seen a lot of threads on creep block recently!

I haven't had much time to play since preseason started. Sure, it was annoying before, but has it gotten worse lately? Just curious.

A wall of minions is now literal. Here is a example of doublelift the other day. 30 sec video but u can just start it at 18 if you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngVKeoVkiB4

It literally auto paths you as if it were terrain.

KnighRriderNov 26, 20152 votes

I always thought this was a problem...

SolidPoohNov 27, 20152 votes

I got really caught up in minions for the first time lastnight. It was only a little worse than in previous patches imo, but the problem was that i needed to burn a flash to be able to survive. I took no damage from champions but i wouldve most certainly woken up dead.

Thus, i would like to argue, yet also commend that i like the minion blocks. However, IF there are revamped minion footprints: there should be a revamp (or role classified item) that offer a way to displace minions.

Since you know, its a core element of the game...

And everything in this game has a counter, right?

New support item inbound?

fred loueNov 27, 20152 votes

The worst case is when all the minions are standing still, but your champ waggles back and forth like it can't decide what direction to take. This usually happens when the minions move to an area after I'm already near there.

LolipoppersNov 27, 20152 votes

I actually got stuck inside a minion wave once. My character was vibrating in place, unable to walk or use abilities for several seconds while the enemy laner attacked me. I killed him afterwards but it was still ridiculous.

CheftoniFTWNov 27, 20152 votes

How did creep block suddenly become such an issue? I've had a few issues in the past, but it has become disgustingly annoying.