@ghostcrawler Here's something that's going to blow your mind

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Time to get out a Dota 2 video showing how it can bbe done and be good for the game.

Melee ranges in general seem to be over buffed in Dota 2, and most Melees seem to have a lot of random compensation to deal with Ranged cahracters instead of actual balance being used.

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In his famous exemple of melees takes no skill post, he mentionned the shyvana vs mundo lane. Little known fact, Mundo has to kite to win this lane. Shyvana Es him and Ws to proc Q, but mundo slows her with Q, waits for Q and W to off and then goes back in when it's down instead of being a brainless I just auto you fight. Guess who does brainless auto fights? Ad carries who are ranged.

Yeah but anything with ranged anything kites, I think he mostly meant that other than those skillshots neither of them require any amount of skill, timing or skill to use. Every character kites and positions because it's a moba, so saying that kiting makes a character not mindless seems pointless

Mundo and Shyvana could both use more decision making and interesting gameplay rather than just being raw stat raid bosses.

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Also, Nasus has to kite in a duel with say, Jax. He doesn't want to stand there and auto him, he wants to Q the jax and then W him and kite for Q to come back up and repeat.

Yes but Jax E is the only interesting skill based decision on his kit. Nasus only kites against it because literally everyone needs to so they aren't stunned. Also kiting someone that's slowed by 95% isn't hard in the slightest.

All fighters like Nasus, Jax and others are balanced on positioning and timing far more than any other class, which is odd to call that skilled or decisive design when every character times and positions as part of their designs.

Nasus being a raid boss is fine.

Jax/Irelia/udyr/Volibear/Mundo/xin/Warwick/Shyvana all being raid bosses probably isn't good design