PSA : DON'T BUY 1700 champ shards for Blues!

Anastaecia··1 votes·1,493 views

Whoever did the math on this is wrong. The math itself is right. BUT,

Zyra is now 4800

AND

Ornn is now 6300.

This takes 3000 ip from the total, which accounts for the +8% that everyone is throwing around.

The actual IP avg gained from a 1700 shard is only 1691 (wp Rito)...actually a .5% loss.

EDIT: NVM....i didn't take into account the essence you get from sub 6300 champ chests.

12 Comments

Shadòw2 votes

the math is correct, and the new prices were added to the table already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6xi6nt/how_to_get_84_more_blue_essence_preseason/

even a Rioter confirmed it.

Anastaecia1 votes

Umm, the amount of blue essence they use for each tier is wrong except the 6300 tier. Not sure where they got their numbers from.

Mysticman892 votes

Are you perhaps neglecting the blue essence you sometimes get directly from the 1700 shards in addition to the champ shard?

Shadòw1 votes

idk but a Rioter confirmed that they were checking it and it is correct.

I think it's because you get bonus essence if you get a "bad shard", and that is already factored in those numbers.

but no matter how you put it, it will still be a gamble. you might win, you might lose some.

Anastaecia1 votes

yea yea...already changed the op....that's crazy that you get 110 from cheapo champs. didn't know that.

Erockandroll1 votes

{quoted}

idk but a Rioter confirmed that they were checking it and it is correct.

I think it's because you get bonus essence if you get a "bad shard", and that is already factored in those numbers.

but no matter how you put it, it will still be a gamble. you might win, you might lose some.

I'm still debating what I want to do with My champ shards.

Prior to this conversion. I actually didn't mind the "Bad Shards" because it was a compromise of Some Essence, and a shard I could use to reroll champs. But since Riot is planing to retire the rerolling aspect, it seems to be a bit of a risk if I get a random champ shard a rolled low.

And there's another aspect that no one has talked about yet. What's going to happen to the "Upgrade to permanent" Cost? If we're combining IP with Blue essence. Should I hold on to the champ shards of champs I still don't own? Should I buy more shards and hope I get champs I don't own?

CrabPeopleReform1 votes

damn i'm so confused i this true?

Anastaecia1 votes

I'll type out the math.

(8713) + (19522) + (26324) + (29347) + (325*32)

= 1131 + 4290 + 6312 + 13711 + 10400

= 35844

35844/138 (champs) = 260

260*6.5 = 1690

If you add 3000 back in for the Zyra and Ornn, you get 38844/138 = 281.4 *6.5 = 1829

1829/1700 = 1.0758 (there's your 8%)

DrCyanide1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/OM8hiTlF-ip-to-be-conversions-the-basics-and-potential-ways-to-earn-more

I believe I came to the same conclusion. The only way to profit from them is if you want to spend RP to buy URFwick.

Mysticman891 votes

The math I saw (https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6xi6nt/how_to_get_84_more_blue_essence_preseason/) had ornn at 6300 and zyra at 4800 though, not to mention is has rioter number guys saying that it works out.

Don't forget that you sometimes get blue essence+champ shard for your 1700 champ token, so theres some bonus stuff sprinkled on top of the expected returns solely on champ shards.

(Although I personally don't have a stockpile of ip to 'convert' in this manner, as I've been rerolling them 3 into perms as I just have 6300 ip champs left, so haven't bothered to independently do the math.)

Anastaecia1 votes

ahh...that's it...the extra blue esssence from chests...forgot about that

Snow Day Kled1 votes

7.5% gain on 15 champs shards here. Don't forget, alot of the lower shard values also come with bonus BE. Usually not enough to overcome the low value, but it helps.

If you like to gamble, go for it! I would definitely say try your luck if you can afford lots of champs shards because you are statistically very likely to gain some BE.

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